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| From | Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: A long rant on Debian 9 |
| Date | 2018-05-07 15:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <vMO3U-1Cc-5@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <vMzex-hi-3@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:51:09PM +0100, John wrote: > After rather a long time it said it was installed so I rebooted -- a > big mistake! I was hoping for a computer where I could write > programs, mainly with xterm, emacs (with elisp) and C. I had asked > for no gnome no kde no xfce... I usually run fvwm on X but I got a > screen with nothing obvious to do. I did get icons (spit!) offering > games and firefox but no xterm -- I was expecting to install emacs > myself as I use a very recent system -- but it was in effect not a > computer but some kind of toy. I do not play computer games and > thought I had said not to install any It looks like other people have already covered the non-free firmware issues. So I'll just focus on this part. I forget the exact wording, but at the end of the installation, there is a tasksel dialog, in which you are presented with a list of "Tasks" that can be installed (Web server, SSH server, Debian desktop environment, and so on). It sounds like you un-checked the specific desktop environments (KDE, GNOME, XFCE, etc.) but left "Debian desktop environment" selected. I honestly have no idea what happens in that case. I always un-check that one. The only Tasks I select during the install are Standard, and SSH server. In that configuration, when you reboot, you get a text console login prompt. At that point, you can login and install the specific packages you want. In your case, I would start with: build-essential xorg fvwm xterm That should get you quite close to what you described, minus the emacs part, which I don't use and don't know how to install. I'm hoping you will know that part. This list does not include a Display Manager, so you'll still login on the console and need to type "startx" to get into X. This is how I use Debian, and also how many other people use Debian. If you want a graphical login, you can install a Display Manager package (possibly lightdm or xdm). But I'd wait until "startx" is known to work, just in case you have issues with video drivers/firmware. Having a DM installed and trying to start X at boot time and FAILING is a situtation you don't want to be in. It's a whole lot easier to work on the problem if you know you can boot to a console and login to fix things.
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A long rant on Debian 9 John <jpff@codemist.co.uk> - 2018-05-06 23:20 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Forest Dean Feighner <forest.feighner@gmail.com> - 2018-05-06 23:40 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-07 00:20 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-05-07 05:40 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-05-07 17:30 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-05-07 17:40 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-05-07 23:50 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-08 00:10 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> - 2018-05-08 18:00 +0200
Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-08 00:10 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-05-08 09:50 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-08 14:00 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-05-08 14:40 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2018-05-08 16:00 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-05-08 21:00 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-05-08 16:00 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-05-08 16:10 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> - 2018-05-07 13:40 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-07 14:20 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2018-05-07 16:50 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> - 2018-05-07 16:50 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 bw <bwtnguy@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-07 17:10 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-07 18:00 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 14:30 +0200
Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-07 16:50 +0200
Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9) Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-05-08 00:10 +0200
Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-08 00:30 +0200
Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9) Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-05-08 00:40 +0200
Re: minimal installation (was: A long rant on Debian 9) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-08 01:20 +0200
Re: minimal installation Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-05-12 23:50 +0200
Re: minimal installation Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-13 00:30 +0200
Re: minimal installation Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-08 02:00 +0200
Re: minimal installation Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-08 21:00 +0200
Re: minimal installation Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-08 00:30 +0200
Re: minimal installation Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-05-08 01:40 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2018-05-07 01:10 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-05-07 15:10 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2018-05-07 15:40 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-05-07 16:00 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> - 2018-05-07 19:20 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-07 20:20 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2018-05-07 22:40 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk> - 2018-05-08 15:40 +0200
Re: 3-button trackpoint configuration (was: A long rant on Debian 9) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2018-05-08 16:10 +0200
Re: A long rant on Debian 9 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-08 21:20 +0200
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