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Re: Anyone else seen this.

From Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, uk.d-i-y
Subject Re: Anyone else seen this.
Date 2026-07-03 17:43 +0100
Organization University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID <vIu*TMFKA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> (permalink)
References <1128k1p$3fgrb$1@dont-email.me>

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In uk.d-i-y The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Recently my router (Draytek 2726) has been spontaneously rebooting.
> 
> Examination of the logs show a kernel panic caused by 'attempt to 
> execute an illegal instruction'.
> 
> My assumption, possibly erroneous, is that the actual firmware code is 
> corrupted
> The router is rated only to +45°C but that is the recommended limit for 
> flash memory, and the room temperature has been up towards 40°C. which 
> doesn't leave a great deal of margin for router internal heat production.
> My query is whether anyone else has seen issues with flash memory in the 
> recent hear wave.
> 
> Surely phones get hotter than this?
> 
> Genuinely interested in other's experiences.

You can get bit flips from cosmic rays.  That's a reason servers have ECC
memory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_error

Not sure to what extent flash is affected, but many routers nowadays copy
their OS into RAM before execution: 'execute in place' is still possible,
but sometimes they store a compressed image in flash to reduce flash cost
and decompress into RAM on boot.

It could also be a RAM chip on the way out.

Theo

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Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:21 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-03 16:37 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:10 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 16:45 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 18:52 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:17 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:16 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 22:29 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-04 00:33 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 07:45 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. [Draytek rebooting] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-04 12:39 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-07-03 17:43 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:09 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:46 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-07-03 23:14 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:20 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Adrian <diy@ku.gro.lioff> - 2026-07-03 17:51 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:26 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-07-03 19:28 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 22:28 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2026-07-03 19:38 +0000
  Re: Anyone else seen this. John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2026-07-03 21:15 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-03 22:32 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2026-07-04 00:30 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 08:55 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. John Rumm <see.my.signature@nowhere.null> - 2026-07-04 12:36 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-04 05:30 +0000
  Re: Anyone else seen this. alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 11:23 +0100
    Re: Anyone else seen this. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-07-04 17:06 +0000
      Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-04 19:08 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-05 02:36 -0400
    Re: Anyone else seen this. tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 22:05 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-04 23:19 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:28 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 10:38 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:53 +0100
              Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 19:24 +0100
                Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 23:55 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 12:05 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 13:57 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2026-07-06 13:01 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:15 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-06 14:15 +0000
              Re: Anyone else seen this. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 20:00 +0200
                Re: Anyone else seen this. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-07-06 19:55 +0000
              Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-07 09:12 +0100
      Re: Anyone else seen this. alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 09:18 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 10:40 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:54 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> - 2026-07-06 13:06 +0100
              Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:18 +0100
          Re: Anyone else seen this. alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 12:32 +0100
            Re: Anyone else seen this. jkn <jkn+nin@nicorp.co.uk> - 2026-07-05 17:24 +0100
        Re: Anyone else seen this. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-06 00:49 -0400
          Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 12:24 +0100
  Re: Anyone else seen this. "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 21:52 +0800
    Re: Anyone else seen this. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-07-04 23:34 -0400
      Re: Anyone else seen this. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 10:50 +0100

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