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Re: encryption

From Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: encryption
Date 2018-04-22 17:40 +0200
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On Sat 21 Apr 2018 at 20:56:43 -0500, David Wright wrote:

> On Sat 21 Apr 2018 at 13:04:20 (-0700), David Christensen wrote:
> > On 04/20/18 12:38, Brian wrote:
> > >DECRYPT=$(scrypt dec /usr/local/bin/myscript) && eval "$DECRYPT"
> > 
> > On 04/21/18 09:36, David Wright wrote:
> > >If so, then won't the password be revealed by ps while eval is
> > >evaluating it?
> > 
> > Apparently, not:
> > 
> > 2018-04-21 13:02:16 dpchrist@vstretch ~/sandbox/sh
> > $ cat environment-var-ps
> > CMD="echo hello" && eval "$CMD" && sleep 3 && echo world! &
> > ps -f
> > 
> > 2018-04-21 13:02:18 dpchrist@vstretch ~/sandbox/sh
> > $ dash environment-var-ps
> > hello
> > UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
> > dpchrist  1681  1268  0 11:42 pts/1    00:00:00 -bash
> > dpchrist  2541  1681  0 13:02 pts/1    00:00:00 dash environment-var-ps
> > dpchrist  2542  2541  0 13:02 pts/1    00:00:00 dash environment-var-ps
> > dpchrist  2543  2541  0 13:02 pts/1    00:00:00 ps -f
> > dpchrist  2544  2542  0 13:02 pts/1    00:00:00 sleep 3
> > 
> > 2018-04-21 13:02:21 dpchrist@vstretch ~/sandbox/sh
> > $ world!
> > 
> > 
> > 2018-04-21 13:03:03 dpchrist@vstretch ~/sandbox/sh
> > $ bash environment-var-ps
> > hello
> > UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
> > dpchrist  1681  1268  0 11:42 pts/1    00:00:00 -bash
> > dpchrist  2556  1681  0 13:03 pts/1    00:00:00 bash environment-var-ps
> > dpchrist  2557  2556  0 13:03 pts/1    00:00:00 bash environment-var-ps
> > dpchrist  2558  2556  0 13:03 pts/1    00:00:00 ps -f
> > dpchrist  2559  2557  0 13:03 pts/1    00:00:00 sleep 3
> > 
> > 2018-04-21 13:03:05 dpchrist@vstretch ~/sandbox/sh
> > $ world!
> 
> That just demonstrates a race between "echo hello" and ps.
> Echo won, so all ps saw was the sleep command. What you need in $CMD
> is a command that's slow to execute and loses the race:
> 
> wren!david 20:52:56 /tmp $ cat testing.sh 
> CMD="echo hello && dd bs=1M if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null count=100" && eval "$CMD" && echo world! &
> ps -f
> wren!david 20:53:01 /tmp $ bash testing.sh 
> hello

[...]

I reduced the contents of myscript to its one essential line:

 mpw -M "secret" "railcard"

Then

 brian@desktop:~$ echo hello && eval /home/brian/myscript && echo world! & sleep 2 && ps -f
 [1] 2049
 hello
 hYM@ei0tSL1rOZRmYD4:
 UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
 brian     1106  1070  0 14:27 pts/2    00:00:00 -bash
 brian     2049  1106  0 16:15 pts/2    00:00:00 -bash
 brian     2051  2049  0 16:15 pts/2    00:00:00 /bin/bash /home/brian/myscript
 brian     2052  2051 89 16:15 pts/2    00:00:01 mpw -M                                       railcard
 brian     2053  1106  0 16:15 pts/2    00:00:00 ps -f
 brian@desktop:~$ world!

sleep is needed because mpw itself uses scrypt to generate a password
and is slow. -M should be followed by the secret. It is not revealed
by ps while eval is evaluating it. I do not know why. Perhaps it has
something to do with the way mpw processes the command.

-- 
Brian.

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encryption Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-20 21:40 +0200
  Re: encryption Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-04-20 22:00 +0200
  Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-21 02:10 +0200
    Re: encryption Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-21 17:30 +0200
      Re: encryption john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-04-21 17:40 +0200
        Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-21 22:00 +0200
          Re: encryption john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-04-22 08:30 +0200
            Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-22 20:30 +0200
      Re: encryption Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 19:00 +0200
        Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-21 22:30 +0200
      Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-21 21:50 +0200
        Re: encryption David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-04-22 18:20 +0200
          Re: encryption Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-22 18:50 +0200
            Re: encryption David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-04-23 10:50 +0200
              Re: encryption Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-23 13:20 +0200
                Re: encryption David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-04-24 20:50 +0200
  Re: encryption David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-04-21 18:40 +0200
    Re: encryption Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-21 20:20 +0200
      Re: encryption David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-04-21 21:00 +0200
        Re: encryption Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-21 21:20 +0200
          Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-21 23:30 +0200
          Re: encryption David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-04-22 04:30 +0200
            Re: encryption Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-04-22 11:20 +0200
              Re: encryption Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 11:50 +0200
                Re: encryption Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-22 19:10 +0200
      Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-21 22:50 +0200
    Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-21 22:10 +0200
      Re: encryption David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-04-22 04:00 +0200
        Re: encryption Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-22 17:40 +0200
          Re: encryption Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-04-23 08:00 +0200
            Re: encryption Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> - 2018-04-23 09:00 +0200
        Re: encryption David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-22 20:10 +0200

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