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Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released

From Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu>
Newsgroups linux.debian.devel, linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released
Date 2018-04-11 15:20 +0200
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On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 10:58:53AM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote:
> >
> > Imho Sean's last mail sums it up pretty well
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515856#94
> 
> I have read this, but it does not convince me. My rule to get the
> upstream packagage was always: use uscan, if d/watch exists, otherwise
> use get-orig-source. Sounds pretty simple and straigt-forward. If it
> fails, I had a starting point where to debug (usually just a missing
> dep). I see no reaso why this should be given up.

I agree with Ole.  While I took over some ideas from this thread how to
get rid of some get-orig-source targets by using mode=git I think it
makes perfectly sense to define a target name that should be used in
case uscan can not be used exclusively to fetch upstream source.  I can
not see in how far definition of the target name will harm - but from
the point of team maintenance it helps to know where to look first to
download a new upstream version.

BTW, I have standardized all my packages to

get-orig-source:
	. debian/get-orig-source

In other words: I'm fine with removing the target in rules and replace
it by:

    If there are reasons why uscan can not fetch the upstream source it
    is recommended to provide a script debian/get-orig-source .

If we do not provide *code* to get the upstream source and just settle
to some (however vague) description in d/README.source random package
developers who might work on a package will end up with different
results.  This should not be the outcome of a policy change.

Kind regards

      Andreas.

-- 
http://fam-tille.de

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Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2018-04-07 02:40 +0200
  Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-04-07 08:10 +0200
    Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org> - 2018-04-07 09:10 +0200
    Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org> - 2018-04-07 09:30 +0200
  Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-04-07 11:00 +0200
    Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2018-04-07 13:30 +0200
      Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-04-07 14:00 +0200
        Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-04-07 18:10 +0200
          Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-04-07 21:00 +0200
            Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2018-04-08 08:00 +0200
              Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-04-08 11:20 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-04-11 15:20 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-04-11 15:30 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2018-04-11 15:40 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-04-11 16:20 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-04-11 23:10 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2018-04-12 04:20 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-04-12 04:30 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2018-04-12 04:40 +0200
                Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-04-12 15:10 +0200
                Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-04-11 23:00 +0200
                Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-04-12 00:10 +0200
                Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 23:10 +0200
                Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-07-02 23:20 +0200
                Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> - 2018-07-02 23:40 +0200
                Re: get-orig-source and standardized source repacking (was: Debian  Policy 4.1.4.0 released) Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-07-06 08:20 +0200
                Re: get-orig-source and standardized source repacking (was: Debian  Policy 4.1.4.0 released) Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2018-07-06 08:50 +0200
                Re: get-orig-source and standardized source repacking (was: Debian  Policy 4.1.4.0 released) Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2018-07-06 09:30 +0200
                Re: get-orig-source and standardized source repacking Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2018-07-06 12:20 +0200
                Re: get-orig-source and standardized source repacking (was: Debian  Policy 4.1.4.0 released) Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2018-07-06 15:40 +0200
                Re: get-orig-source and standardized source repacking (was: Debian  Policy 4.1.4.0 released) Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> - 2018-07-06 16:40 +0200
                Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-07-03 01:50 +0200
                Re: Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-04-12 08:30 +0200
                Re: Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-04-12 18:50 +0200
                Re: Bug#515856: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2018-04-12 20:10 +0200
    Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2018-04-07 13:50 +0200
      Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-04-07 15:10 +0200
        Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2018-04-08 01:30 +0200
          Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2018-04-08 11:20 +0200
  Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released KAction@gnu.org - 2018-04-07 23:50 +0200
    Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-04-08 00:40 +0200
      Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Mike Gabriel <mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de> - 2018-04-08 13:30 +0200
    Re: Debian Policy 4.1.4.0 released Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-04-09 01:50 +0200

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