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Re: Holy Grail makes People Disappear [like Robert Staerk, now Ulrich Neumerkel?]

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Hi,

Although the work itself might be solid work.
the appeal to fixpoints should already ring a
bell. What I wish from a logic framework and

what would attract me is:
- includes the concept of a model finder,
   to show things unprovable.
- indeally a model finder, that can also
   find functions as counter models.
- allows to express things in non-classical
   logic and can make good use of non-classical logic.
- allows to express things in constructive
   function spaces and can make good use of constructive function spaces.

Currently with fixpoints and classical logic,
the approach is not enough advanced, doesn't
utilize what type theory could offer.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I remember Robert Stärk's disappearing from
> academic life at ETH Zurich all of a sudden.
> Did Ulrich Neumerkel now also disappeared not
> 
> because the Scryer Prolog disaster, but after
> he figured out that failure slices are not hip
> enought? What could be more hip, are the modalities
> 
> of Robert Stärk's logic more hip now and even useful?
> 
> Automated Theorem Proving for Prolog Verification
> Fred Mesnard etc.. May 2024
> https://lim.univ-reunion.fr/staff/fred/Publications/24-MesnardMP-slides.pdf
> 
> Disclaimer: I am not deep into this theory,
> it has some ingredients that were floating around
> the 80's / 80's, not only in the millieau of ETH Zurich,
> 
> but also in the vincinity of Gehard Jaeger, Bern.
> There are many alternative formalizations that
> can express termination etc.. But maybe LPTP is
> 
> especially suited for Prolog?

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