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| From | Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action |
| Subject | Re: What difficultly level do you play one? |
| Date | 2024-07-24 08:30 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 7/9/2024 9:27 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 21:46:05 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Strange really as when I look back at say Dungeon Master part of the fun
>> was getting the graph paper out and making a map. Possibly games have
>> swung too much they other way were it can feel like you're playing
>> follow the quest marker. Another one I don't like is kneel behind a wall
>> to recover health or the ability to 'long rest' in the middle of a dungeon.
>
> YMMV.
>
> Even back-in-the-day I disliked the 'make your own map' requirement of
> a lot of adventure and role-playing games. Especially since it
> promoted stupidly labyrinthine (and unrealistic) dungeon design whose
> sole purpose was to artificially lengthen the game rather than provide
> a fun experience.
>
> When games like "Ultima Underworld" or "Might & Magic III" started
> adding automap as a standard feature, I rejoiced. All of a sudden
> dungeon crawls could be FUN rather than tedious step-by-step grind
> where you had to carefully mark out every step. I could focus on the
> ambience and environment rather than have to jump away every step to
> scribble some marks on a piece of paper.
>
> (In fairness, nowadays I've got a pretty good sense of direction and
> usually can figure out my way through most dungeons -old school or
> not- without resorting to maps. I'm pretty sure my years playing
> Wizardry and Bards Quest and the like are to thank for that skill ;-)
>
> With that out of the way, I've kept many of my older hand-drawn maps
> from that era and have a certain nostalgic appreciation towards them.
> But I'm not going to ever bother doing anything so insane again. If
> your game's labyrinths are so complex that mapping is required? That's
> a game I'm probably not playing. (you're probably the sort of
> developer that thinks teleport traps and spinners are fun too.)
Or you just look up the maps on the internet for those games.
Yes I mapped out by hand PoR, Bard's Tale etc. but I can't be assed to
do that ever again. Tedious.
I can't say anyone ever maps playing D&D anymore either, for quite a
long time. I did have one very confusing module I ran where the players
did finally bother to do it in 3.5, but it was still tedious and they
didn't like it, and neither really did I.
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