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Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

From Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?
Date 2018-01-07 14:40 +0100
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Le 04/01/2018 à 05:32, Michael Stone a écrit :
> 
> No, it's a pretty common shorthand to say "routable" to mean "routable 
> on the public internet", especially where there's no real possibility of 
> confusing it with specifically non-routable blocks like 127.0.0.0/8. 

This is still a mistake. In technical fields such as this one, words 
have a well defined meaning.

> Honestly, I considered it less likely to be confusing than calling them 
> RFC1918 addresses in this context.

What about "private", as defined in RFC1918 ?

> As far as 169.254.0.0/16, it's defined as a link local range for address 
> autoconfiguration, but it can still be routed internally just as much as 
> the RFC1918 space can be.

No, unless you're ready to violate the standards. RFC3927 (Dynamic 
Configuration of IPv4 Link-Local Addresses) explicitly states in chapter 
7 "Router Considerations" :

    A router MUST NOT forward a packet with an IPv4 Link-Local source or
    destination address, irrespective of the router's default route
    configuration or routes obtained from dynamic routing protocols.

    A router which receives a packet with an IPv4 Link-Local source or
    destination address MUST NOT forward the packet.  This prevents
    forwarding of packets back onto the network segment from which they
    originated, or to any other segment.

Note that it says "MUST", not "SHOULD".

> (Doing so just might not be a good idea, 

Yes, violating the standards is often a bad idea.

> because some devices might code in some assumptions

What you call "assumptions" is just compliance with the standards.

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Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Max Power <debian@cpnetserver.net> - 2018-01-02 12:50 +0100
  Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-02 13:00 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-02 14:10 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-02 15:00 +0100
        Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-01-02 17:30 +0100
  Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-02 14:30 +0100
  Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-01-02 17:20 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of   Stretch? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-02 18:40 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-03 10:30 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of   Stretch? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-03 14:10 +0100
        Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-03 16:40 +0100
          Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-01-03 17:00 +0100
          Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-03 19:50 +0100
            Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-04 02:10 +0100
              Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-04 05:40 +0100
                Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-01-07 14:40 +0100
            Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-04 02:30 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-01-03 21:00 +0100
  Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of   Stretch? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-02 17:20 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-03 09:20 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of   Stretch? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-03 13:10 +0100

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