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Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure

From Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure
Date 2024-06-26 19:43 +0000
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olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/26/2024 11:03 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>> [ Followup-To: set ]

>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/26/2024 8:40 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>> olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 6/26/2024 3:10 AM, Mikko wrote:

>>>> [ .... ]

>>>>>> The relevant area of software engineering is testing. The usual
>>>>>> attitude of software engineers is that a program is accpted when it
>>>>>> has been sufficiently tested and passed all tests. Consequently, an
>>>>>> important part of sofware work is the design of tests.

>>>>>> In the current context the program to be tested is a halting decider.

>>>>> *NO IT IS NOT. H0 IS ONLY AN X86 EMULATOR*
>>>>> After you quit lying about the behavior of DDD correctly
>>>>> emulated by H0 then we can move on to the next point.

>>>> I think the problem is rather your calling every program or function you
>>>> talk about H, or H^, or HH, or HHH, or H0, or H1.  Usually, in the past,
>>>> you have meant purported halting deciders by these names.  Now you're
>>>> saying that you mean an X86 emulator.  Where and when did this change
>>>> happen, and how is anybody else supposed to know what you mean by
>>>> particular uses of these names?

>>> When I ask people to consider the behavior of DDD
>>> correctly emulated by H0 according to the semantics
>>> of the x86 programming language it really does seem
>>> to be the strawman deception when they try to get away
>>> with saying that it must be the behavior of the directly
>>> executed DDD().

>> I don't think so.  People's eyes glaze over when they see yet another one
>> of your posts, virtually the same as so many others, and cannot
>> reasonably be expected to read and understand every last word.

>> Maybe if you restricted yourself to using E... when you mean an emulator,
>> and H... when you mean a purported halting decider, there would be less
>> confusion.

> Emulating termination analyzer H is inherently an emulator.
> It really should not be that hard to pay attention to that
> unless one only cares about rebuttal and thus does not care
> about truth.

Your posts are, in the main, tedious in the extreme.  When you repeat the
same thing 30 times over, you can't expect anybody to read each of the
repetitions as though it were fresh and new.

All the people you are debating with care about the truth.  That's why
they're in this group debating with you.

>> Given how most people here are mathematically trained, perhaps if you
>> started a typical post with "Suppose E is a code emulator ...", and other
>> prerequisites there would be less confusion still.


> OK that sounds like a reasonable way to avoid information overload.

>>> _DDD()
>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call H0(DDD)
>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

>>> It is clear that the semantics of the x86 language specifies
>>> that DDD correctly emulated by H0 at machine address 0000217a
>>> will continue to repeat the first four instructions of DDD
>>> until out-of-memory error.

>> It is not at all clear, given how murky the code at 15d2 is, and what you
>> mean by "correctly emulated".

> Of course I must mean jumping up and down yelling and screaming
> and not be referring to anything like what an x86 emulator does.

Anything "like" what an x86 emulator does is insufficiently precise.
There are plenty of different functions which could appear at 15d2, some
of them will return, some won't.  Some of them could be called emulators,
most couldn't.  And the "semantics of x86" don't specify anthing beyond
the meaning of x86 programs in general.

>>> When we add that the outermost directly executed H0 can abort
>>> its simulation as soon as the behavior of its input matches
>>> the the infinite recursion behavior pattern it remains true
>>> that the call from the emulated DDD to the emulated H0(DDD)
>>> cannot possibly return.

>> It might do.  Convincing argument that this is the case (i.e. a proof)
>> has not been forthcoming.

> We cannot prove differential calculus to anyone not knowing
> how to count to ten.

Everybody else in this group knows differential calculus, and certainly
how to count up to ten.  They also know what a proof looks like, and how
necessary it is.

> That DDD correctly emulated by H0 must continue to repeat
> its first four instructions is self-evident true to anyone
> knowing what an x86 emulator is and having sufficient basic
> knowledge of the x86 programming language.

It is not self-evident.

> I was very surprised to find out that one person having a PhD
> in computer science said that they had hardly any experience
> with programming.

Why?  Many architects won't have much experience of brick laying, either.

> The CS courses that fulfilled the requirements for a BSCS degree
> at my university had quite a bit of programming. One of the projects
> for the data structures course was to write a LISP interpreter that
> could do car, cdr and cons.
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/eintr/car-cdr-_0026-cons.html 

I'm familiar with that page, being a member of the Emacs maintenance
team.

> These expressions could be arbitrarily complex. I was one of
> two students out of fifty that got the project in on time. The
> other one was my co-worker at the US Army Corps of engineers.
> He and I got a 100% grade.

>>> *That people consistently lie about this is quite annoying*
>>> *yet not nearly so much when their lie is easily exposed*

>> I haven't seen other people here lying.

> When they say that I am wrong knowing that they do not understand
> what I am saying this would be a lie.

They say you are wrong because you are wrong.  They do understand what
you are saying, mostly, and understand that it is wrong, again mostly.

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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  Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-20 10:09 +0200
    Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-20 09:12 -0500
      Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-20 18:37 -0400
        Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-20 17:45 -0500
          Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-20 21:55 -0400
      Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-21 09:44 +0200
        Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 ---Boilerplate Reply olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-21 08:01 -0500
          Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 ---Boilerplate Reply Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-21 10:02 -0400
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              Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 ---Boilerplate Reply Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-21 11:25 -0400
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                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 ---Boilerplate Reply Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-21 15:11 -0400
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          Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 ---Boilerplate Reply "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-22 11:27 +0200
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              Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 ---Boilerplate Reply "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-22 20:50 +0200
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                DDD correctly emulated by H0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 14:45 -0500
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-22 16:10 -0400
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 19:01 -0500
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-22 20:14 -0400
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-22 22:28 -0500
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-23 07:28 -0400
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                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 ---Boilerplate Reply "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-23 11:45 +0200
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  Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-23 11:22 +0300
    Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-23 08:17 -0500
      Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-24 10:37 +0300
        Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-24 08:48 -0500
          Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-24 19:36 +0000
            Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-24 16:04 -0500
              Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-24 19:43 -0400
              Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-25 14:08 +0200
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 08:12 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-25 16:13 +0200
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 12:29 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-25 20:19 +0200
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 13:26 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-25 20:49 +0200
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 13:51 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-25 21:17 +0200
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 14:30 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-26 10:01 +0200
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 08:07 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-27 11:38 +0200
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-27 12:21 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 10:06 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 09:12 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 16:43 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 10:01 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 17:19 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD incorrectly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-28 16:28 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD incorrectly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 13:24 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD incorrectly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-28 19:25 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD incorrectly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 16:03 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD incorrectly simulated by HHH Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-06-28 21:26 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD incorrectly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 16:52 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 08:30 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-27 11:45 +0200
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-27 12:30 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 10:23 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 09:27 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 16:53 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 10:04 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 17:22 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 10:32 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 17:48 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 11:54 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 20:22 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 13:31 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-28 20:48 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 14:01 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-29 10:52 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-29 21:51 -0500
                Re: simulation trace of DDD joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-06-30 08:58 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-30 08:34 -0400
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-28 13:14 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 10:25 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-28 16:26 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 12:05 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-28 17:41 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 12:53 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-28 19:18 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 14:28 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-06-29 19:44 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-29 15:03 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-29 16:11 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-06-30 08:42 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-30 12:25 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-30 15:31 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-06-30 20:16 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-01 10:27 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 07:57 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-01 16:27 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 09:35 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-01 15:52 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 10:56 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-01 20:14 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 13:29 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-02 10:45 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-01 20:01 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 13:25 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-02 10:39 +0200
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                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-01 20:38 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 20:39 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-01 22:03 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-30 12:42 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-30 12:20 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-01 10:23 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 07:59 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-01 16:25 +0200
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 09:31 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-01 20:38 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-01 20:38 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 20:36 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-01 22:24 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 21:34 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-01 22:44 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 22:14 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-01 23:21 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 22:34 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 07:30 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 07:39 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 18:44 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 17:58 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 19:03 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 18:09 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 21:07 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 20:28 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 21:32 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 20:42 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 21:48 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- clueless olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 20:54 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- clueless Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 21:59 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- Richard proves that he is clueless olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 21:09 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- Richard proves that he is clueless Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 22:23 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- Richard proves that he is clueless olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 21:35 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- Richard proves that he is clueless Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 22:46 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- Richard proves that he is clueless olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 22:10 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- Richard proves that he is clueless Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 23:26 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH --- Richard proves that he is clueless Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-02 23:27 -0400
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-03 03:55 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-02 09:42 +0300
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-02 08:06 +0000
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-02 09:40 +0300
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-26 11:10 +0300
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 07:55 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-06-26 13:40 +0000
                DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 09:04 -0500
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-06-26 16:03 +0000
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 11:24 -0500
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-06-26 18:30 +0200
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-06-26 19:43 +0000
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 15:10 -0500
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure --- addendum olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 15:30 -0500
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-26 20:55 +0000
                Re: DDD correctly emulated by H0 --- Why Lie? -- Repeat until Closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-26 16:15 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-27 09:34 +0300
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-27 12:07 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-28 10:17 +0300
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-28 10:28 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-29 10:23 +0300
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-29 21:50 -0500
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-30 12:12 +0300
                Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-30 08:34 -0400
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-25 21:47 -0400
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 21:12 -0500
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-25 22:20 -0400
              Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-25 20:44 +0000
                Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-25 16:38 -0500
          Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-24 19:24 -0400
  Re: 195 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HH0 Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-30 12:30 +0300

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