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Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis

From Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis
Date 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
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On 6/9/24 12:09 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/9/2024 10:11 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-06-09 13:59:57 +0000, olcott said:
>>
>>> On 6/9/2024 3:47 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-06-08 13:04:14 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/8/2024 1:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-06-07 22:26:05 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/7/2024 4:00 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>>>> Am Fri, 07 Jun 2024 09:47:35 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2024 1:30 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-06 15:31:36 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2024 10:14 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-06 13:53:58 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2024 5:15 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-05 13:29:28 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/5/2024 2:37 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-06-04 18:02:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A simulating halt decider cannot report on what the behavior of a
>>>>>>>>> non-terminating input actually is because this would take forever.
>>>>>>>> Exactly. Didn't you say it is allowed to abort?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> H is not allowed to report on any computation containing its 
>>>>>>>>> actual self
>>>>>>>>> because Turing machines can only take finite string inputs thus 
>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>> take Turing machines as inputs.
>>>>>>>> Bullshit. It can take other machines just fine. It doesn't know 
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No actual Turing machine can be the input to any other actual
>>>>>>> Turing machine. Turing machines only take finite string inputs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any finite string can be an input to some Turing machine.
>>>>>> Can you prove that a Turing machine is not a finite string?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> By definition Turing Machines are not finite strings in the
>>>>> conventional model. In my x86utm model of computation x86
>>>>> machine language <is> the input to another function written
>>>>> in the x86 language.
>>>>
>>>> The definition does not say "Turing machine is not a finite string".
>>>
>>> The definition of puppy does not say it is not a fifteen
>>> story office building.
>>
>> Therefore you must use a different kind of argumentation if you want
>> to claim that a Turing machine is not a finite string.
>>
> 
> It is common knowledge (that you lack) that a Turing machine
> <is not> a finite string. It is also common knowledge that
> finite strings can describe Turing machines.
> 

It is also common knowledge that "strings" don't have behavior

So, since we need to look at what the string describess for the 
behavior, the fact that that string could be a description of a Turing 
Machine, that becomes a perfectly valid "behavior" for the string when 
you are being a bit sloppy in your language.

You can't argue that HH can not be responsible for the behavior of the 
Turing machine described by the input, and claim it is (at least tryihg 
to be) a Halt Decider, since that definition provides the meaning for 
the input.

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Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-06-03 02:16 +0200
  Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-02 20:34 -0400
  Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-03 04:28 +0100
    Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-02 22:50 -0500
      Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 07:14 -0400
      Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-06-03 15:36 +0200
      Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-03 17:25 +0100
        Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 12:54 -0500
          Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 20:57 -0400
          Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-04 02:38 +0100
            Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 20:46 -0500
              Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 21:59 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:18 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 22:49 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:12 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 21:47 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-05 10:08 +0300
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 08:08 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review wij <wyniijj5@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 21:47 +0800
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 09:10 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 11:25 +0300
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 08:13 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 18:18 +0300
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 10:32 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 07:10 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-04 03:57 +0100
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 22:12 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 23:57 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:26 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 21:47 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Mikes Review immibis <news2@immibis.com> - 2024-06-04 19:36 +0200
    Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-06-03 10:42 +0100
      Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 07:20 -0500
        Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-06-03 15:39 +0200
        Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-03 17:27 +0300
          Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 13:14 -0500
            Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 20:56 -0400
            Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-04 08:21 +0000
              Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:31 -0500
            Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-04 11:28 +0300
              Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:40 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways immibis <news2@immibis.com> - 2024-06-04 20:27 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 21:48 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 21:05 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways John Smith <news2@immibis.com> - 2024-06-05 04:12 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 21:16 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 22:22 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-05 10:28 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 08:24 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-05 19:39 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways John Smith <news2@immibis.com> - 2024-06-05 19:03 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 12:09 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways John Smith <news2@immibis.com> - 2024-06-05 19:29 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 12:37 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-05 18:16 +0000
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-05 18:33 +0000
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways --very stupid olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 21:09 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways --very stupid Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-05 22:28 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways --very stupid Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 11:52 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways --very stupid olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 08:37 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways --very stupid Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-05 19:42 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 11:45 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 08:23 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 22:22 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-05 10:11 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 08:59 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-05 20:51 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 17:44 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-06 18:01 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 11:07 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-06 18:34 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 11:44 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways immibis <news2@immibis.com> - 2024-06-06 20:09 +0200
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-05 19:46 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 12:02 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 08:41 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 18:07 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 10:15 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-07 09:19 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-05 10:13 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 08:18 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-05 18:25 +0000
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-05 19:51 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 12:34 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 08:48 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 18:09 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 10:18 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-07 09:22 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 09:09 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 11:14 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 21:02 +0000
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 17:27 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-08 09:13 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 07:42 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:03 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 11:09 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 08:27 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-08 09:06 +0300
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 07:35 -0500
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:03 -0400
                Re: Halting Problem is wrong two different ways immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-06-07 16:25 +0200
            Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-06-04 16:38 +0200
        Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-03 22:09 +0200
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              Re: Mike Terry Reply to Fred Zwarts "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-04 12:52 +0200
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                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Mike Terry Error Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-07 09:30 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 09:47 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-06-07 16:55 +0200
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 10:05 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-06-07 17:09 +0200
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 10:20 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 11:28 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 15:32 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 10:40 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 11:51 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 16:34 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 11:53 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 20:40 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-08 03:43 +0100
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 23:03 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 22:36 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:03 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 08:43 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 10:05 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 11:15 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 08:45 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 22:16 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:03 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-08 09:28 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 07:47 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 08:59 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 08:22 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 10:06 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-08 17:43 +0100
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis --- olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 12:19 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis --- Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 16:33 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 11:19 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations incorrectly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 15:27 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations incorrectly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 10:30 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations incorrectly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis news2@immibis.com - 2024-06-07 17:32 +0200
                Re: How Partial Simulations incorrectly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 11:52 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 11:14 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-07 19:56 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 12:11 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 14:32 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-08 09:36 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 07:52 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:10 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 08:48 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 10:10 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 09:20 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 10:54 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 10:07 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 11:15 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 10:32 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 12:03 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 12:10 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-08 18:12 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 13:36 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-08 19:59 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 15:15 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-08 21:37 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 16:42 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 17:50 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 17:04 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 18:27 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 17:34 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 22:47 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 21:58 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 23:53 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 23:02 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 00:11 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 23:38 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 11:38 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 08:58 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 18:56 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 11:23 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-10 09:30 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 09:59 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-11 10:35 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-11 12:38 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 16:23 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 15:34 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 16:47 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 15:52 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 16:57 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 16:14 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 17:28 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 16:38 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 17:48 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 16:58 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 18:25 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 17:30 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 22:47 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 22:02 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 23:56 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 23:06 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Should I quit Richard at this point? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 11:20 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 08:53 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 18:15 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 11:18 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-10 09:57 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 10:05 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-11 10:22 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-10 12:50 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 21:00 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 17:26 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 19:00 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 23:19 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 18:44 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 20:38 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-06-08 02:25 +0200
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 19:35 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 20:48 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-08 09:42 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 08:04 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-08 15:20 +0200
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 08:32 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-08 15:56 +0200
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 09:11 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 10:20 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 10:17 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:36 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-08 13:46 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 09:02 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 10:31 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 11:52 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 09:03 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 18:13 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 11:15 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-09 17:47 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-10 10:54 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 10:22 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 11:47 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 08:59 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 18:11 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 11:09 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting -- TM as finite string joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-09 17:50 +0000
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-10 11:01 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-10 10:23 -0500
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Ben's 10/2022 analysis Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-11 10:25 +0300
                Re: How Partial Simulations correctly determine non-halting ---Mike Terry Error Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 11:14 -0400
            Re: Mike Terry Reply to Fred Zwarts "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-04 13:02 +0200
        Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- Ben's Review Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 20:56 -0400
      Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-03 17:58 +0100
  Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-03 09:58 +0200
    Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-03 18:36 +0100
      Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 13:03 -0500
        Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2024-06-03 19:56 +0100
          Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? --- woeful ignorance olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 14:26 -0500
          Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 19:47 -0500
            Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 20:59 -0400
              Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 20:05 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 21:44 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 20:54 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 21:58 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:09 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 22:26 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 21:47 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-03 22:53 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 12:06 -0500
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-04 21:47 -0400
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-05 10:31 +0200
                Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 09:06 -0500
            Re: Why is Olcott so ignorant, anyway? immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-06-04 17:25 +0200
  Re: Why does Olcott care about simulation, anyway? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-03 13:38 +0300

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