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Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard

From Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups comp.theory
Subject Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard
Date 2024-06-07 20:31 -0400
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On 6/7/24 7:48 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/7/2024 6:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 6/7/24 7:09 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 6/7/2024 6:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 6/7/24 6:24 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 6/7/2024 3:56 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>>> Am Fri, 07 Jun 2024 14:31:10 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>>> On 6/7/2024 1:57 PM, wij wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2024-06-07 at 13:41 -0500, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2024 1:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/24 2:02 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/7/2024 12:50 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone claiming that HH should report on the behavior of the
>>>>>>>>>>> directly executed DD(DD) is requiring a violation of the above
>>>>>>>>>>> definition of correct simulation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And thus you admit that HH is not a Halt Decider,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Halting Problem asks for a program H (precisely a TM) that:
>>>>>>>> IF H(D,D)==1, THEN D(D) will return.
>>>>>>>> ELSE If H(D,D)==0, THEN D(D) will never return.
>>>>>>>> ELSE HP is undecidable
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When we can show that even in the halting problem HH is only 
>>>>>>> required to
>>>>>>> report on the behavior of DD correctly simulated by HH these 
>>>>>>> dishonest
>>>>>>> people merely use that as another deflection point for their 
>>>>>>> dishonesty.
>>>>>>> The way around this that just worked is to stay diligently 
>>>>>>> focused one
>>>>>>> one single point until the dishonest people finally admit that 
>>>>>>> they have
>>>>>>> simply ignored all the proofs for three solid years.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>> "only" It must report on the behaviour of DD, which must be the 
>>>>>> same when
>>>>>> simulated. It can't simulate something different and say "look! My 
>>>>>> result
>>>>>> simulating this is right, because it is my result!".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The most persistent false assumption that cannot possibly
>>>>> be corrected without expertise in the x86 programming language.
>>>>> Some people here have that.
>>>>
>>>> You seem confused.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't seen ANYONE complain about any x86 instruciton actually 
>>>> simulated.
>>>>
>>>> The complaints have always been about those NOT simulated by your 
>>>> system, like the CALL H instruction.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you want to see the full 251 pages showing that the
>>> call H was simulated?
>>>
>>
>> Sure, post it somewhere.
>>
>> Then, make sure you point out what features of that traces proves that 
>> the input represents a program that is non-halting.
>>
>> That will be hard to do as you agree that it halts, and it is hard to 
>> prove something that you admit is false.
> 
> https://liarparadox.org/HH(DD,DD)_FULL_TRACE.pdf
> This includes the full trace of the simulated HH
> and DD simulated by this HH mixed in.

Which seems to be a trace of the execution of HH, not the trace that HH 
makes, since it begins at the entry point to main.

So this is NOT the trace you are claiming that HH is using, as this 
should not be available to it.

That might explain the extream large number of pages, this is a trace of 
the simulator doing the simulation, not the trace that HH is creating to 
see what the input DD does.


************************************

Where is the trace that HH makes?

************************************

at best it seems intertwined with the unneeded trace of the execution of 
the direct call by main of HH.


Or is your problem that your system doesn't actually have anyting 
"directly executed" but your whole programming world is in the fantasy 
of the x86 simulator?


> Your false religious belief about correct simulations
> can only be overcome by carefully examining this:

It isn't a "religious" beleive about correct simulation, it is the 
definitions of the sytsem.

Maybe to put it in words you might understand.

The "Gods" of the system (the founders of the Field) created it with 
certain definitions in place, and those definition ARE the definitions 
of the system.

If you try to be a "god" and change the definition, you get banished 
from the field and you are just working in an alternate field that is 
but a shadow of the original. Only if you can show enough people that 
you alternate system is useful, and the being to use the system and 
"worship" it, will it have any power.

Right now, it looks like you have been cast out of Computation Theory 
for serving false idols (definitions) and will never be able to actual 
prove anything about halting.


> 
> Try to show how this DD correctly simulated by any HH ever
> stops running without having its simulation aborted by HH.

And why do I care about that?

> 
> _DD()
> [00001e12] 55         push ebp
> [00001e13] 8bec       mov  ebp,esp
> [00001e15] 51         push ecx
> [00001e16] 8b4508     mov  eax,[ebp+08]
> [00001e19] 50         push eax      ; push DD
> [00001e1a] 8b4d08     mov  ecx,[ebp+08]
> [00001e1d] 51         push ecx      ; push DD
> [00001e1e] e85ff5ffff call 00001382 ; call HH
> 
> A {correct simulation} means that each instruction of the
> above x86 machine language of DD is correctly simulated
> by HH and simulated in the correct order.
> 
> Anyone claiming that HH should report on the behavior
> of the directly executed DD(DD) is requiring a violation
> of the above definition of correct simulation.
>

So, again, you admit that your HH is not a Halt Decider, as a Halt 
decider MUST answer about the direct execution of the machine described 
by their inputs (in this case DD(DD) ) so your definition is violating 
the requirements of the problem.

No where does the plain statement of the Halting Problem talk about 
"simulation" in any way, that only comes as an extension and only when 
simulation is defined correctly, which your is not to allow it.

So, you are just admitting that all your work is just about POOP and not 
Halting.

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                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 18:51 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 19:57 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 19:23 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 20:45 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 19:50 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 21:01 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 19:32 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 20:47 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 19:52 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 21:08 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 20:26 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 21:42 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 20:48 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 22:11 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 21:35 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 22:46 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 21:54 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 23:11 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-08 10:31 +0300
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:03 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 08:39 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:56 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 08:12 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact -- closure Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 09:57 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 20:56 +0000
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 17:24 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 19:00 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 18:09 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 19:20 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 18:48 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 20:31 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 18:31 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 20:35 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 15:28 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 14:36 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 16:01 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-06-07 23:06 +0200
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 17:25 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 17:12 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Python <python@invalid.org> - 2024-06-08 00:15 +0200
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-08 09:58 +0300
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-08 08:06 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-08 10:01 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-09 12:33 +0300
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 09:04 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2024-06-09 15:16 +0100
                Simplified proof that DDD correctly simulated by HHH does not halt olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 09:21 -0500
                Re: Simplified proof that DDD correctly simulated by HHH does not halt Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-09 15:11 +0000
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 11:11 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 14:08 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 19:17 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 20:36 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 19:50 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 21:07 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-09 20:22 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-09 21:41 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-06-07 20:52 +0000
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact --- last communication with Richard immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-06-07 18:01 +0200
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 00:57 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 07:11 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 08:08 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 08:27 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
              Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact ornott <news2@immibis.com> - 2024-06-06 18:48 +0200
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 11:56 -0500
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact prescott <news2@immibis.com> - 2024-06-06 20:03 +0200
                Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
  Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-05 10:02 +0200
    Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-05 08:54 -0500
      Re: At least 100 people kept denying the easily verified fact "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-06-05 20:39 +0200

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