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Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch?

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On Tue, Jan 02, 2018 at 12:42:35PM +0100, Max Power wrote:
> My problem is to know the ISP [e.g. GATEWAY = Vodafone, Telecom or AT&T]
> before starting browsing or any remote connection...
> With the 'route' command it was so easy '# route' and goal!
> With le last release 'Stretch' the net-tools packet is not installed by default.

There *just* was a thread around here: either use ip -r route (-r means
try to resolve IP address to name, your old "route" did exactly that),
or just install net-tools (as you said above).

> But if this command was so useful, why It was removed?

Folks, don't get so worked up when your favourite package is not
installed by default. Otherwise the default install would end up
installing *all* packages! Just go install it. If enough of you
do (and enable popcon, hint, hint) it might become again default,
who knows?

Whining here won't help and just makes the mailing list more
annoying.

FWIW, I have net-tools installed and use old and new. Happy camper.

Cheers
- -- tomás
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Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Max Power <debian@cpnetserver.net> - 2018-01-02 12:50 +0100
  Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-02 13:00 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-01-02 14:10 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-02 15:00 +0100
        Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-01-02 17:30 +0100
  Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-02 14:30 +0100
  Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-01-02 17:20 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of   Stretch? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-02 18:40 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-03 10:30 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of   Stretch? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-03 14:10 +0100
        Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-03 16:40 +0100
          Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-01-03 17:00 +0100
          Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-03 19:50 +0100
            Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-01-04 02:10 +0100
              Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-01-04 05:40 +0100
                Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-01-07 14:40 +0100
            Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of Stretch? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-01-04 02:30 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-01-03 21:00 +0100
  Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of   Stretch? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-02 17:20 +0100
    Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of  Stretch? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-01-03 09:20 +0100
      Re: Is there a way to know the ISP with the default installation of   Stretch? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-01-03 13:10 +0100

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