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Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies

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In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
> The common meaning of the term [lie] is

> noun
> (1) a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive;
> an intentional untruth.

> verb (used without object)
> (1) to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with
> intent to deceive. Synonyms: fib, prevaricate

> When Richard calls people liars and does not mean they have any
> intent to deceive this makes Richard a liar because Richard knows
> that people will be lead to believe that he is using the common
> definition that requires an intent to deceive.

> https://www.dictionary.com/browse/lie

Richard doesn't call "people" liars, he calls specifically you one.  I
wish he would do so less often, because it lowers the tone of the
newsgroup.  Nevertheless, you _are_ a liar.

I think it's accepted that you falsely claimed to have constructed a
turing machine which refuted a standard proof of the halting theorem.
That turned out to be a lie, which can only have been deliberate and
deceitful.

Even now, you frequently refer to false things you would like to be true
as "unequivocally proven" or some such.   You sometimes refer to other
false things you would like to be true as "verified facts".  These are
lies - there is no such proof, and there is no such verification,
something you know, or ought to know.  I don't think you have any idea
just how offensive these lies are to the mathematically educated, to
which most of the active posters on this group belong.

Again, you are a liar.  That is your choice.  You could decide to cease
to be a liar, and refrain from telling such fibs as outlined above.  And
then, when you accidentally say something untrue, be prepared to
apologize for it.  I believe you still haven't apologized on the
newsgroup for the falsehood about the non-existent turing machine.  If
you wish to cease being a liar, that might be a good place to start.

> -- 
> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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When Richard calls people liars he lies olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 09:27 -0500
  Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-06 17:42 +0300
    Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 09:56 -0500
      Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
      Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-06-07 08:32 +0300
        Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 08:23 -0500
          Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 11:14 -0400
  Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-06-06 15:47 +0000
    Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 11:06 -0500
      Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
    Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400
      Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-06-07 17:37 +0000
        Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-07 12:58 -0500
          Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 14:32 -0400
        Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-07 14:28 -0400
  Re: When Richard calls people liars he lies --- this post counters defamation in this forum olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-06-06 11:43 -0500
  Re: When Olcott calls people liars he lies Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-06-06 22:08 -0400

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