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Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today

From Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, misc.phone.mobile.iphone, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today
Date 2024-06-03 20:13 +0000
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Newyana2 wrote on Mon, 3 Jun 2024 09:08:20 -0400 :

>>> My point only is that this doesn't portend an ability to turn off 
>>> bluetooth
>>> in later releases because Google & Apple make too much $ off tracking us.
>> 
>> But do they really make money from knowing where I am?
>> 
>     Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You need to remember that Google
> and Apple are both running their own ad systems. For Google,
> spyware and ad middlemanning is essentially their whole business.
> Google operates by vast, comprehensive data collection. Apple
> operates via spyware combined with control over devices.

Keeping with the main point of the rant, and in accordance with what
Mayayana said above (and which Andy rightfully questioned), there is no
doubt in my mind that the reason Google & Apple are doing this is to make
money off of tracking us... 

a. That's why, I posit, they added the mandatory precise location
b. And now, they're adding bluetooth that can't be kept turned off
c. And they've added phones which can't even be fully turned off

My only goal, really, is to be able to turn that stuff off. 
That's it. 

As long as they make it so intelligent people can turn it off, I'm OK.
Let the proletariat masses be led to slaughter by marketing - but not me.

An example of the masses being led to slaughter, but not me... is this:
 <https://xdaforums.com/t/privacy-do-you-have-3-brand-new-default-on-advertising-switches-recently-inserted-into-your-android-for-brand-new-android-13-targeted-advertising.4639991/>

Another example of the masses led to slaughter, but not me, is this.
 <https://xdaforums.com/t/app-6-0-app-finder-the-most-advanced-search-engine-for-android-apps-50-free-plans-here.4578809/post-89024201>

Notice that developers allow us to divorce ourselves from Google and Apple
tracking, where in the case of Apple the tracking on app installations is
tremendously intrusive since Apple inserts a unique ID that only you have
into every app you install on the iPhone from their app store.

Even if Google tried to do that, they couldn't - but they don't (only Apple
tracks every single app IPA you install - Google can't track every APK).

My main point is simply that as long as I can turn the Apple/Google
tracking, I'm fine with that.

It's when they make tracking mandatory (and lie about why) that bothers me.

 <well-informed fact-based evidence-based rant>

I am always logically sensible as I make assessments based on fact.
In cases of lies though, you have to infer them based on actions.

The rant is that they lie about why they're doing this, since you can see
in my article on the precise location that their lies are brazenly told.
 <https://xdaforums.com/t/privacy-do-you-know-a-way-to-permanently-disable-google-location-accuracy-precise-location-wi-fi-scanning-while-keeping-only-the-gps-radio-on.4543135/>

Being intelligent and resourceful myself, I actually don't care so much
that the hoi polloi do everything that the marketing people tell them to do
(like sheep led to slaughter); but what I deplore is that they're making it
almost impossible for even the intelligent people to keep the radios off.

Let's be clear that a subtle portion of my rant against Apple's and
Google's brazen lies as to *why* they're preventing us from turning off our
tracking radios is partly that the morons (who outnumber the intelligentsia
1000 to 1) are also tracking us - which is easy to prove with Wi-APs.

The end result is we're literally being tracked by the main entities,
Google & Apple, and, perhaps worse, by every single moron out there.

That bothers me when Google/Apple make it so that we can't turn it off.

 </rant>

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Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-05-31 17:20 -0400
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-31 14:21 -0700
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-06-01 12:06 +0100
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-01 14:18 +0100
      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 00:00 -0400
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-02 08:34 +0100
          Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-02 19:45 +0000
            Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-06-02 16:49 -0400
              Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-02 22:39 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-06-02 18:17 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 12:48 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-03 12:16 +1200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 07:19 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-06-03 12:12 -0400
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-03 14:20 +0200
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-31 19:27 -0400
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-01 18:39 +1200
      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 00:03 -0400
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-06-02 07:18 +0200
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-06-01 08:05 +0200
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 00:06 -0400
      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-06-02 07:05 +0200
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 11:25 -0400
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-01 11:43 +0000
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-01 08:50 -0400
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-01 14:24 +0100
      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-01 10:37 -0400
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-06-01 11:11 -0400
          Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-01 13:43 -0400
            Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-01 19:26 +0100
              Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-06-01 20:15 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-02 00:23 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-06-01 22:37 -0700
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-02 08:57 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-02 19:00 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-02 15:20 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-02 20:24 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-02 21:44 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-03 03:42 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 07:17 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 08:34 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 09:08 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 10:36 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 11:01 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 09:32 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 10:45 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 11:10 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 14:52 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-03 17:43 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 18:01 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 21:03 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 08:58 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 11:45 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 16:11 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 16:53 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-11 17:19 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-03 09:08 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 20:13 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 05:19 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-11 17:21 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-06-11 16:47 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-06-04 09:55 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 11:51 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-03 17:43 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 20:42 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 20:53 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-03 08:08 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 07:21 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-03 08:13 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-04 06:20 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 07:19 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-04 08:09 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 13:31 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-04 08:53 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 14:22 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 16:01 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 17:14 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 16:48 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 18:38 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-05 04:49 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-06-04 16:58 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-02 22:50 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-06-02 19:41 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-02 15:18 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-06-02 21:31 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 22:28 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-01 20:26 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-06-02 09:04 +0100
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-01 16:13 +0100
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 16:25 +0100
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      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-03 16:14 -0400
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    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-06-02 15:36 -0400
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-03 14:18 +0200

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