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Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H

From Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups comp.theory, sci.logic
Subject Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H
Date 2024-05-05 13:22 -0400
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On 5/5/24 1:02 PM, olcott wrote:
> The x86utm operating system: https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm enables
> one C function to execute another C function in debug step mode.
> Simulating Termination analyzer H simulates the x86 machine code of its
> input (using libx86emu) in debug step mode until it correctly matches a
> correct non-halting behavior pattern proving that its input will never
> stop running unless aborted.

Except that the pattern it uses is incorrect, since H(D,D) using this 
"pattern" says that D(D) will not halt, where, when main calls D(D), it 
does return/halt, so H is just incorrect.


> 
> Can D correctly simulated by H terminate normally?
> 00 int H(ptr x, ptr x)  // ptr is pointer to int function
> 01 int D(ptr x)
> 02 {
> 03   int Halt_Status = H(x, x);
> 04   if (Halt_Status)
> 05     HERE: goto HERE;
> 06   return Halt_Status;
> 07 }
> 08
> 09 int main()
> 10 {
> 11   H(D,D);
> 12 }
> 
> *Execution Trace*
> Line 11: main() invokes H(D,D);
> 
> *keeps repeating* (unless aborted)
> Line 03: simulated D(D) invokes simulated H(D,D) that simulates D(D)
> 
> *Simulation invariant*
> D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly reach past its own line 03.

Nope, PROVEN WRONG AND THE PROOF IGNORED, PO have even claimed that it 
would be trivial to show the error in the proof, but hasn't done it, 
showing that he doesn't actually have an answer to the refutation, and 
thus by just repeating a statment that is know to at least potentially 
have a problem as if it was just clearly true is just a pathological lie.

> 
> The above execution trace proves that (for every H/D pair of the
> infinite set of H/D pairs) each D(D) simulated by the H that this D(D)
> calls cannot possibly reach past its own line 03.

Except that the proof shows that you are not smart enough to think of 
some of the ways arround the problem (even though those methods were 
discussed a long time back)

> 
> *Shown by ordinary software engineering* When the directly executed
> H(D,D) aborts simulating its input then all of the nested simulations
> (if any) immediately totally stop running and no simulated H ever
> returns any value to any simulated D.
> 

Right, but that doesn't change the behavor of the correctly and 
completely simulated input or the direct execution of the program descirbed.

>  From this we can definitely know that every D(D) of the infinite set
> of H/D pairs where this D(D) is simulated by the H that this D(D) calls
> that this D(D) presents non-halting behavior to this H.

Nope. And the conclusion doesn't even follow from the incorrect premise.


> 
> *Termination Analyzer H is Not Fooled by Pathological Input D*
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369971402_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D
> 

Just LIES.

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                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-09 22:31 -0400
                Richard tried to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-09 22:10 -0500
                Re: Olcott doesn't understand logic Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 10:18 -0400
                Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 10:50 -0500
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 12:12 -0400
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 12:49 -0500
                Olcott keeps on lying. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 16:09 -0400
                Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 15:27 -0500
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 16:50 -0400
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 16:11 -0500
                Olcott thinks something isn't iteself. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 17:19 -0400
                Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 16:43 -0500
                Olcott can't tell the difference between a machine and an infinte set of machines Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 17:59 -0400
                Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 17:28 -0500
                Olcott thinks One is Infinity Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 18:39 -0400
                Richard seems to be a liar. olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 18:39 -0500
                Olcott doesn't know the difference between an element an the set Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 22:17 -0400
                Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 21:21 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No, but Olcott is. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 22:39 -0400
                Richard must be educated on what a termination analyzer is olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 21:49 -0500
                Olcott admits to creating defintion out of his *ss Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 23:16 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-11 11:27 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-11 11:26 -0500
                Re: Is Oclott a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-11 12:46 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-12 12:19 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-12 07:34 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-12 18:21 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 10:58 -0500
                Olcott admits to being a liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-12 12:57 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-14 12:44 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 09:21 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:15 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-15 11:04 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 10:03 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-16 13:15 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 09:37 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a patholgociat liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-17 12:28 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 11:07 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:07 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-18 13:38 +0300
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 08:43 -0400
                Richard is proven to be incorrect on a key point olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 09:53 -0500
                Re: Richard is proven to be incorrect on a key point Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 11:03 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-18 13:33 +0300
                embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ where embedded_H is based on a UTM olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 09:50 -0500
                Re: embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ where embedded_H is based on a UTM Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 11:06 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 09:32 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-14 15:08 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 10:30 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-14 17:42 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 10:45 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-14 18:13 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 12:14 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-14 19:49 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 12:52 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-14 20:30 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 13:40 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-14 19:01 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 14:34 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:15 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-15 11:17 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 10:10 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-15 16:20 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 11:59 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:25 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 10:34 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-16 17:53 +0200
                Re: Olcott is a patholgociat liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-17 12:42 +0300
                Every D correctly simulated by H never reaches its final state and halts V2 olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 11:27 -0500
                Re: Every D correctly simulated by H never reaches its final state and halts V2 Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:06 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 13:18 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:07 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-14 21:36 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 14:42 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-14 22:05 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 15:13 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:15 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-15 08:21 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 09:02 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-15 16:50 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 11:27 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-15 20:19 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 13:39 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-15 21:13 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:10 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:25 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-16 08:41 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-16 12:36 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 09:54 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-16 17:12 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 11:04 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-16 20:55 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 14:32 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a patholgociat liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-17 09:41 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 10:31 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-17 18:24 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 12:18 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-17 21:02 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 14:34 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:06 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-18 10:45 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-18 10:43 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 10:34 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 11:40 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-18 14:13 +0200
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:07 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:07 -0400
                No Message-ID therefore construed as Liar olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 23:05 -0500
                Re: No Message-ID therefore construed as Liar Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 07:24 -0400
                Re: No Message-ID therefore construed as Liar olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 07:53 -0500
                Re: No Message-ID therefore construed as Liar. Message ID Provided, so OLCOTT is the LIAR. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 09:13 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-17 10:26 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 10:38 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:07 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-17 12:50 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 11:34 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:07 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-18 15:43 +0300
                Re: Olcott is a patholgociat liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-17 12:47 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 11:31 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a patholgociat liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 10:17 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a patholgociat liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 13:24 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:07 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-18 10:12 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-18 10:55 +0200
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 10:27 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 11:31 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:25 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:25 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 11:56 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-15 20:26 +0200
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:25 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:25 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-15 06:27 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 09:09 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:25 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-15 11:25 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 10:47 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:25 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:15 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-15 11:21 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 10:43 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-15 16:26 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 12:04 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 10:10 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a patholgociat liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:16 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar?  No! Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-15 13:40 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No! olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 09:16 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No! Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-15 14:54 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No! olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 11:34 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No! Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-15 17:04 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 12:10 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 11:57 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-15 18:04 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 13:33 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-15 19:29 +0000
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 15:18 -0500
                Re: Is Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 17:50 -0500
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No! olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 09:19 -0500
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? No! (Glad you argree) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Pathological Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:15 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:15 -0400
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:15 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-15 23:28 +0200
                Re: Olcott is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:15 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-15 11:06 +0300
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 10:06 -0500
                Re: Olcott Is a Liar! Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-16 13:42 +0300
                Nature of undecidable halting joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-16 13:20 +0000
                Re: Nature of undecidable halting --- Connecting truth-bearers to their truthmaker olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 10:00 -0500
                Re: Nature of undecidable halting --- Connecting truth-bearers to their truthmaker Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 23:11 -0400
                Re: Nature of undecidable halting Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-17 13:04 +0300
                Re: Nature of undecidable halting ---Handling undecidable inputs olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 11:49 -0500
                Re: Nature of undecidable halting ---Handling undecidable inputs Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:06 -0400
                Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 09:48 -0500
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-16 22:29 -0400
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-17 07:09 +0000
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker Ben Bacarisse <ben@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-17 13:50 +0100
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 10:28 -0500
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker -- Reply to Ben's long standing objection olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 13:42 -0500
                Reply to Ben's long standing objection --- I finally have the words olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 13:46 -0500
                Re: Reply to Ben's long standing objection --- I finally have the words Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:07 -0400
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-17 13:45 +0300
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 12:01 -0500
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 12:11 -0500
                Re: Unconventional partial halt decider and grounding to a truthmaker Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 13:22 -0400
                Re: Is Richard a Liar? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-12 08:51 -0500
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-13 06:53 +0200
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 08:19 -0500
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-13 23:49 +0200
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 17:51 -0500
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-14 02:17 +0200
                Re: Richard KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 19:37 -0500
                Re: Olcott KEEPS LYING about Richard not refuting his statemnt. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-13 21:51 -0400
                Re: Olcott KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-13 20:29 -0400
                Re: Olcott KEEPS TRYING to get away with this falsehood Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-13 20:30 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-10 17:55 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 13:01 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-10 18:38 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-10 14:16 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 16:09 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-11 09:48 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-11 10:02 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-11 11:36 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-11 11:48 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H +++ Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-11 12:58 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H +++ olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-11 12:36 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H +++ Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-11 19:25 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-11 17:14 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-11 12:28 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-11 19:25 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-10 16:09 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-13 06:54 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 00:19 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-13 07:29 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 08:40 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-13 20:30 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-13 07:22 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-13 12:14 +0300
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 09:43 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-14 00:20 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-13 18:00 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-13 20:30 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-13 20:30 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-14 12:52 +0300
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-14 09:35 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-14 22:16 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-15 11:18 +0300
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 10:24 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-15 16:23 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-15 12:01 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-15 20:24 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-16 13:48 +0300
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 09:50 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-16 16:15 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-16 11:39 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-17 13:56 +0300
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-17 20:02 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 18:00 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2024-05-17 17:15 -0600
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 19:10 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 19:24 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2024-05-18 20:58 -0600
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 22:27 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-19 05:45 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 22:50 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 08:07 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-19 14:15 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 08:11 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 13:17 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-20 11:01 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-20 12:06 +0300
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 08:03 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 19:34 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:06 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-18 10:30 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 09:20 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 18:45 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-17 13:53 +0300
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-17 12:14 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-17 21:06 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-05-18 16:02 +0300
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 10:07 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 11:11 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2024-05-18 21:52 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-19 04:22 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 11:30 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 14:09 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 14:12 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 14:34 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 13:29 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 16:32 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-20 21:46 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 22:21 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 22:42 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-19 08:08 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-19 12:48 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-20 11:16 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-05-20 14:00 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-20 14:11 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> - 2024-05-20 16:43 +0000
                Topicality: Who really cares? (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-20 17:45 +0000
                Re: Topicality: Who really cares? (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-05-21 11:36 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 11:28 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-05-21 11:36 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-05-21 11:47 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-05-21 20:27 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 12:10 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 13:13 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-05-22 10:50 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-23 17:27 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-21 06:47 +0200
                Lying meets the standard of losing defamation cases olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 00:03 -0500
                Re: Lying meets the standard of losing defamation cases Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-21 07:54 -0400
                Lying meets the standard of losing defamation cases olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 00:05 -0500
                Re: Lying meets the standard of losing defamation cases Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-21 07:56 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-20 22:35 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-21 08:52 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-21 10:56 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-05-21 11:36 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-05-21 11:48 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-21 18:10 +0200
                Thought control??? (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-21 17:16 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-21 21:46 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 20:13 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> - 2024-05-21 22:55 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-22 07:48 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-22 07:41 +0200
                Re: Policy dispute (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-22 12:56 +0000
                Re: Policy dispute (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-22 07:42 +0200
                Policy dispute (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-22 05:32 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-05-22 18:40 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-22 15:30 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-05-22 16:15 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-05-22 11:15 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 12:12 -0700
                Subway (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-21 19:15 +0000
                Re: Subway (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 12:51 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 13:08 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 13:24 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-21 13:26 -0700
                Welcome! (Was: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ###) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-21 21:13 +0000
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### immibis <news@immibis.com> - 2024-05-22 07:40 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-05-23 19:29 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-23 17:19 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 22:45 -0700
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2024-05-19 00:48 -0600
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-05-18 11:34 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 11:44 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-05-18 18:01 +0200
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-18 12:04 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 11:31 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-05-18 12:49 -0400
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-05-18 11:52 -0500
                Re: Every D(D) simulated by H presents non-halting behavior to H ### James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-05-19 13:23 -0400
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