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Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

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On 23/12/17 02:02 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 12/22/2017 04:06 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> writes:
>>
>>> I've never used youtube before.
>>
>> One thing to note explicitly: YouTube is deliberately designed to
>> thwart downloading videos.
>>
>> YouTube's owner (Google, Alphabet, whatever they call themselves next
>> year) have chosen a business model [0] that benefits when more people
>> keep watching videos *via the site* [1]. So downloading videos from
>> the site works directly against the business model they have chosen.
>
> I personally consider Google goal is to be as obnoxious as possible.
> I avoid them whenever physically possible.

I consider their goal to own every piece of data that exists in 
machine-readable form (with the exception of music, which they've agreed 
to let iTunes have).  This includes your personal data, which explains 
why they are setting up a surveillance network that puts Orwell's 
telescreens to shame.

This is why I use DuckDuckGo (https://duckduckgo.com) instead of Google 
for my search engine, MapQuest or zoom.earth for maps and satellite 
views, etc.

As for YouTube, if you do a search for (I don't say "google for" for 
reasons mentioned above) "youtube to mp3", you'll find a number of web 
pages into which you can paste a YouTube URL and it will convert the 
sound to an MP3 file which you can then download.  Great for getting a 
piece of music to practise with, for instance.  For that matter, some 
sites will convert to MP4 and you can download the video.

One of my favourite sites has disappeared, but lots remain.

-- 
cgibbs@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

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Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-22 22:10 +0100
  Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2017-12-22 22:20 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2017-12-22 22:20 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 12:50 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-23 13:40 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-23 12:50 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2017-12-24 03:40 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-24 06:10 +0100
  Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-22 23:10 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Andre Majorel <aym-naibed@teaser.fr> - 2017-12-22 23:30 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-22 23:30 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-12-23 00:00 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2017-12-23 01:50 +0100
        Re: Youtube - newbie guidance <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-23 11:30 +0100
          Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-12-23 16:10 +0100
            Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-23 17:30 +0100
        Re: Youtube - newbie guidance songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-12-23 15:10 +0100
          Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2017-12-23 16:10 +0100
          Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-12-24 02:50 +0100
            Re: Youtube - newbie guidance The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-12-24 03:30 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-23 11:10 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 21:40 +0100
        OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-23 22:00 +0100
          Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-12-23 22:20 +0100
            Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 22:40 +0100
          Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 22:30 +0100
          Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-12-26 18:40 +0100
            Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-27 05:30 +0100
              Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-12-28 06:00 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2017-12-24 00:40 +0100
  Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 00:40 +0100
  Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-12-23 04:10 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-23 11:20 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 12:00 +0100
        Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-23 12:30 +0100
          Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 12:50 +0100
            Re: Youtube - newbie guidance deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 13:00 +0100
              Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 13:30 +0100
            Re: Youtube - newbie guidance davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2017-12-23 23:10 +0100

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