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Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

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On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, Brian wrote:

> On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 05:21:33 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>
>> On 12/23/2017 04:55 AM, Brian wrote:
>>> On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 04:10:00 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/22/2017 09:00 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>>>>> cliget or youtube-viewer or youtube-dl can do that, but cliget
>>>>> does it with least complexity.
>>>>>
>>>> Neither cliget nor youtube-viewer appear to be in Debian
>>>> repository.
>>>
>>> youtube-viewer depends on youtube-dl, so it looks like a bells and
>>> whistles provider.
>>>
>>> Download a Debian package from
>>>
>>>  https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/webupd8/artful/main/base/youtube-viewer
>>>
>>
>> *WHY?* It does not appear to offer any appear to offer me any
>> additional functionality, having installed youtube-dl.
>
> You remarked that youtube-viewer was not in the Debian archives; this
> is correct. I provided a way for users to get and install it.
>
> This is a mailing list, not a help-line for one user. You judge it not
> to offer you anything (which you could have determined before writing
> the mail with your cliget and youtube-viewer remark) but others might
> be of a different opinion. Please refrain from having an expectation of
> responses tailored exactly to your mode of thinking and over-emphasised
> queries.

I concur with the gist of this final paragraph of Brian's.  Solutions
proposed on this list in response to clearly formulated queries might
benefit many subsequent readers besides an OP, and it rings a sour
note (for me, at any rate) whenever an OP seems not to recognise this.

However, it is worth noting that thread's subject includes the
qualifier "newbie guidance".[1]

The advice of Brian's above which OP (and deloptes) objected to is
cautioned against here, and rightly so:

  DontBreakDebian - Debian Wiki # Don't make a FrankenDebian
  https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian#Don.27t_make_a_FrankenDebian

Forcibly installing an ubuntu package on a debian system is bad advice
for someone new to debian.

Following such advice would tend to sabotage the great care that
debian invests in package management. Were a conflict to arise due to
a foreign package's installation, the frustrated new user might never
learn that their own actions, and not debian, were wholly to blame.

NOTE

1. I admit it is likely OP meant only to inform us of their
inexperience with YouTube, and not with debian. The many experiments
and investigations of Richard's, documented on this list, disqualify
him from debian newbie-hood. But subsequent readers of this thread
might easily miss that distinction.

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Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-22 22:10 +0100
  Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2017-12-22 22:20 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2017-12-22 22:20 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 12:50 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-23 13:40 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-23 12:50 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2017-12-24 03:40 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-24 06:10 +0100
  Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-22 23:10 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Andre Majorel <aym-naibed@teaser.fr> - 2017-12-22 23:30 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-12-22 23:30 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-12-23 00:00 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2017-12-23 01:50 +0100
        Re: Youtube - newbie guidance <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-12-23 11:30 +0100
          Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-12-23 16:10 +0100
            Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-12-23 17:30 +0100
        Re: Youtube - newbie guidance songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-12-23 15:10 +0100
          Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Carl Fink <carlf@panix.com> - 2017-12-23 16:10 +0100
          Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-12-24 02:50 +0100
            Re: Youtube - newbie guidance The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-12-24 03:30 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-23 11:10 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 21:40 +0100
        OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-23 22:00 +0100
          Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-12-23 22:20 +0100
            Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 22:40 +0100
          Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 22:30 +0100
          Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-12-26 18:40 +0100
            Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-12-27 05:30 +0100
              Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance) Ric Moore <wayward4now@gmail.com> - 2017-12-28 06:00 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2017-12-24 00:40 +0100
  Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 00:40 +0100
  Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@panix.com> - 2017-12-23 04:10 +0100
    Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-23 11:20 +0100
      Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 12:00 +0100
        Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-12-23 12:30 +0100
          Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 12:50 +0100
            Re: Youtube - newbie guidance deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-23 13:00 +0100
              Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-12-23 13:30 +0100
            Re: Youtube - newbie guidance davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2017-12-23 23:10 +0100

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