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Re: Can't find the DNS Servers

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Can't find the DNS Servers
Date 2017-10-06 03:40 +0200
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On Thu 05 Oct 2017 at 08:55:33 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 07:23:51PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > Well, thank you. But this doesn't explain the paragraph above my comment.
> > I'm just trying to understand the suggestions being made by more
> > experienced folk here, like Reco and Greg.
> 
> My rationale is that having access to the Internet allows you to look up
> the answers to your problems, allows you to install missing software, etc.
> Being able to ping barney from fred on your LAN is pretty unimportant
> for most problem resolutions, compared to being able to ask Google "how
> do I set up NAT on Debian stretch", or whatever issue you're currently
> trying to solve.

I had assumed that the OP still had internet access from their other
machines.

> As far as /etc/hosts vs. setting up an internal DNS server, most home
> LANs are probably small enough that I would simply use /etc/hosts.
> Things may change if you live in a mansion with a staff, or you're the
> landlord for an apartment building, or something.  My cut-off point would
> probably be a dozen machines.  If there are more than a dozen machines,
> then I would consider setting up an internal DNS server for them.

I always think it odd that a router that issues hostnames and IP
addresses to hosts can't spit the same information out when given
a DNS query. But I've assumed that setting it up to do so would
involve no work; the work is in typing the information into the
DHCP pages.

So if you have a DNS-serving router, it would seem defeatest to
then have to maintain /etc/hosts files, and it just hides the
problem which, thankfully, has now been found.

Cheers,
David.

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Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-24 03:10 +0200
  Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2017-09-24 06:40 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-25 21:50 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 09:00 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2017-09-27 11:20 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-27 18:40 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-01 22:40 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 04:30 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-02 04:30 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2017-10-02 04:40 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 09:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-02 12:30 +0200
                Re: E-mail headers 101 (was: Can't find the DNS Servers) Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 12:40 +0200
                Re: E-mail headers 101 (was: Can't find the DNS Servers) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-02 13:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 23:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-03 22:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 01:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-04 01:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 14:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 19:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 08:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 14:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 14:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 15:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 15:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 19:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-04 19:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 20:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-05 00:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-05 02:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-05 04:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 05:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-06 07:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 18:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-05 15:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 03:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-06 15:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 18:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 20:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-04 20:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 20:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-04 20:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 22:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 01:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-05 08:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-04 22:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-04 22:50 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 19:10 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-05 19:10 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-05 19:40 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-10-05 20:40 +0200
                Re: (solved) Can't find the DNS Servers Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-06 16:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-02 23:00 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-10-02 23:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-03 05:10 +0200
  Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 15:00 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 15:20 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 15:30 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 15:50 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 16:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 16:30 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-30 04:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-30 08:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-09-30 14:00 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-25 17:40 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 18:20 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 18:30 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 18:40 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-25 23:40 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-26 20:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:10 +0200
      Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-25 19:40 +0200
        Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 20:00 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2017-09-25 21:00 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 21:30 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-25 21:30 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-25 21:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-25 23:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 15:20 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-26 15:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-09-26 16:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-09-26 16:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 17:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-26 17:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 18:00 +0200
                Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 23:20 +0200
                Re: Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Lck Ras <likcoras@riseup.net> - 2017-09-27 16:20 +0200
                Re: Finding the appropriate manpage [Re: Can't find the DNS Servers] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-09-27 17:20 +0200
          Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 00:50 +0200
            Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-26 20:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:40 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-09-26 22:10 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-27 05:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-09-27 00:50 +0200
              Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-26 21:30 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-26 21:50 +0200
                Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-09-27 05:40 +0200
    Re: Can't find the DNS Servers Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2017-09-26 05:20 +0200

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