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Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit

From Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups can.general, soc.culture.canada, can.politics, nf.general, bc.general, ont.general
Subject Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit
Followup-To can.politics
Date 2024-03-23 09:29 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <utm7da$3i1p9$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:27:54 -0230, David Dalton wrote:

> On Mar 21, 2024, Dhu on Gate wrote
> (in article <uti488$1o4po$5@dont-email.me>):
> 
>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 16:25:16 -0230, David Dalton wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 21, 2024, David Dalton wrote
>> > (in article<0001HW.2BACB51200010E34700000C6A38F@news.eternal-september.org>)
>> > :
>> >
>> > > Instead of the federal government giving back much of the Carbon
>> > > Tax in rebates, they should direct the money to improving public
>> > > transit nationally, including in rural areas.
>> > >
>> > > For example, in recent years there has been a loss of Greyhound
>> > > in Western Canada, and that contributes to the ongoing crisis
>> > > os missing and murdered indigenous women and girls, since
>> > > many of them resort to hitchhiking.
>> > >
>> > > On a local (Newfoundland) basis, several years ago there was
>> > > a loss of Fleetline bus, which used to operate on the coastal
>> > > Conception Bay Highway between St. John’s and Conception
>> > > Bay North, and which was a valuable service fo students
>> > > travelling home for the weekend and for seniors and others
>> > > going into the city for medical appointments or shopping.
>> > >
>> > > But of course there could also be an improvement in public
>> > > transit in urban (including small cities) and suburban areas.
>> > >
>> > > And I think the NDP would support the LIberals in such an
>> > > initiative, maybe even to the extent of forming a coalition
>> > > before the next election.
>> >
>> > And indeed, the planned transition to electric vehicles
>> > is not practical; instead (or as well) there must be a
>> > rapid evolution of private cars to public transit.
>>
>> Location, location, location, Dave. Electrics only really
>> make any sense in dense urban environments, where they really
>> do rock ;-)
>>
>> Dhu
> 
> Perhaps hydrogen fuel cell vehicles would have a longer
> range and better performance in low temperatures.

The only problem with using carbo-hydrates (e.g. Kerosene) is the 
use of fossil carbs.  Otherwise, being as most of the biology 
of our planet is carbohydrates, it's possible to make and use 
carbo fuels that won't poison the planet's plants and animals.  

Until someone shows me a *functioning* Fusion Reactor, they're 
gonna be burning COAL in China and India to make electricity
AND Hydrogen. 

Germany too: they're back to burnin' brown coal 'cause they've
shut down their nukes and don't have access to the Russian
gas they'd hoped to replace them with. 

Dhu


> 
> And in the long term I envisage a hyperloop backbone,
> perhaps partly funded by Elon Musk.





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Je suis Canadien. Ce n'est pas Francais ou Anglais.  
 C'est une esp`ece de sauvage: ne obliviscaris, vix ea nostra voco;-) 
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Carbon Tax --> public transit David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2024-03-21 16:03 -0230
  Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2024-03-21 16:25 -0230
    Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2024-03-21 20:10 +0000
      Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2024-03-21 23:27 -0230
        Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2024-03-23 09:29 +0000
        Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> - 2024-04-09 11:26 -0600
    Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> - 2024-04-09 11:27 -0600
  Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2024-03-21 17:04 -0400
    Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2024-03-21 23:22 -0230
      Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> - 2024-03-21 23:02 -0400
        Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2024-03-22 01:33 -0230
          Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> - 2024-03-23 09:36 +0000
          Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> - 2024-04-09 11:25 -0600
        Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> - 2024-04-09 11:26 -0600
      Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> - 2024-04-09 11:26 -0600
    Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> - 2024-04-09 11:27 -0600
  Re: Carbon Tax --> public transit Phil Hendry's Chop shop <jon@than.ball> - 2024-04-09 11:27 -0600

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