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Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions

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Nuno Silva wrote:

> Proper unique references for USENET posts were, BTW, not available from
> Google Groups for a while now (and, I'm guessing, still aren't). Those
> are Message-Ids. These days, I think all you can get from Google Groups
> is a link to the Google Groups interface, nothing "interoperable". At
> most, you can try to use the Date: and Subject: to look the post up in a
> proper archive.
> 
> IMHO a decent web-based search/archival interface for posts should both
> support lookup by this ID and getting the ID for a given post, if it's
> not already built around these IDs as message identifiers in its own
> URLs and so on.

+1

While you're almost certainly aware of <http://al.howardknight.net/>
there are other ways to construct a URL based on the Message-ID.

http://news.chmurka.net/mid.php?mid=ur8tvu$2kvca$1@paganini.bofh.team
http://usenet.ovh/index.php?article=ual&msgid=ur8tvu$2kvca$1@paganini.bofh.team

Still... there was merit in having a Usenet-only keyword search engine that
was provided by dejanews (which Google took over) and which was available
to everyone with just a web browser, and which only searched Usenet and
which cost nothing which allowed the user to read the entire thread - not
just one post like Howard Knight does - and which allowed users to
reference the post to others who also had only a web browser, 
etc).

If you want to search before you post, then there will probably be new
engines that come up, although none with the retention that Google had.

For example
http://comp.periphs.printers.narkive.com

But that web site by David Cavion is no longer maintained once he got a
full-time job and now has no time to maintain it.

The Usenet-only replacement search engine needs to be free to all, with
just a browser, not needing an account, and having infinite retention.

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Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-23 10:02 +0000
  Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions Indira <indira@ghandi.net> - 2024-02-24 01:46 +0530
    Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-02-24 09:55 +1000
      Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions Indira <indira@ghandi.net> - 2024-02-24 07:14 +0530
        Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-02-24 12:49 +1000
          Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions Indira <indira@ghandi.net> - 2024-02-25 09:43 +0530
    Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-02-27 08:39 +0000
      Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-02-28 07:36 +1000
        Re: Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-15 15:16 +0000

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