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Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch

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On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 08:12:21AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 07:57:58AM +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote:
> > That's fascinating because I found the opposite -- my circa-2009 
> > self-built Intel Core i7 920-based machine surged ahead when I upgraded 
> > from jessie to stretch -- really felt like everything was that little 
> > bit more alive. I'd had no complaints about jessie performance but 
> > suddenly everything was that bit nippier.
> 
> Video drivers, most likely.  Jessie's X used an "intel" driver for
> Intel graphics chipsets, whereas stretch's X uses a "modeset" driver.
> 
> Notoriously in jessie, some of the newer Intel chipsets actually needed
> (or greatly wanted) a backported stretch xserver-xorg-video-intel
> package for proper performance.  (Your older machine may or may not be
> one of these.)
> 

Did wonder about video drivers -- but the video hardware is nVidia here 
and the driver in use was and is the proprietary nVidia driver. Albeit 
now the "legacy" one, as the card is old -- the transition to which 
briefly gave me the willies when I migrated from jessie to stretch; a 
while back I made a thread here about that, all long since sorted out 
now.

I famously have never been able to get the nouveau drivers working at 
all. A looong time ago, there was a period where the nVidia proprietary 
driver was not very stable with my chipset, or at least the combination 
of the nVidia driver and Gnome 3 was toxic, and I tried nouveau then 
with no success. I tried again a bit later as an experiment to see if I 
could get away from proprietary code -- no dice. I gave up at that point 
as by then the nVidia driver was both faster and stable. Since then, 
touch wood, it has been solid and performant.

I reckon you are right that the improvement I saw is most likely to come 
from video driver improvements somehow, but that means an improvement 
between the nVidia driver version in Jessie and the legacy video driver 
version in stretch.

Anyway whatever it is, that's not going to stop me giving Debian in 
general credit for the improvement! Me like!

Mark

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Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Borden Rhodes <jrvp@bordenrhodes.com> - 2017-08-21 22:30 +0200
  Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-21 22:50 +0200
  Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch tony mollica <tjm3@threedogs.net> - 2017-08-22 01:00 +0200
    Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch tony mollica <tjm3@threedogs.net> - 2017-09-06 18:20 +0200
      Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-06 18:40 +0200
        Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-09-06 20:40 +0200
          Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-09-06 22:00 +0200
            Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-09-11 23:30 +0200
              Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-09-12 09:40 +0200
                Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-09-13 16:50 +0200
              Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-09-15 10:30 +0200
                Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-09-15 17:40 +0200
                Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-09-15 20:10 +0200
      Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-09-06 21:00 +0200
      Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-09-07 01:00 +0200
        Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-09-07 14:20 +0200
          Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch tony mollica <tjm3@threedogs.net> - 2017-09-07 17:20 +0200
          Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-09-08 01:00 +0200
  Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-22 03:10 +0200
    Re: Debian v9 it's a stretch Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-09-07 01:30 +0200

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