Re: What's the speed of Gravity?

Subject	Re: What's the speed of Gravity?
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From	benj <benj@nobody.net>
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Date	2018-05-04 15:18 -0400

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On 5/4/2018 12:50 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
> john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lib
>> “Space is composed of smaller gradations of matter.
>>
>> Such a claim does not have experimental background.
>> “
>> Such a claim can never be disproved.
>> On the other hand, the concept of ‘nothing’ is illogical.
>>
> 
> Nobody said anything about nothing. We were talking about whether a vacuum
> is filled with a material substance or not.
> 
> YOU are the one saying that if a vacuum has no substance in it, then it
> must be nothing. Which is not true. Existence is not tied to material
> substance.
> 
This is true, Boinker. There are those who have long said Aether is 
MATERIAL substance. Logically there is no need for such an assumption. 
What IS logical is that space either IS or is FILLED with SOMETHING 
which gives that region it's properties. To say there are properties 
with nothing to create those properties is babbling nonsense. The 
question of whether that something IS space or FILLS space is an 
interesting one, because the latter means that a "true vacuum" might be 
created which has no properties, does not transmit light etc.

As to aether and matter, there is a TOE which surmises that Matter 
(protons etc) are actually bits of "frozen" aether. In other words the 
theory is that aether like water can be a wispy vapor (like cold steam) 
or without energy "freezes" into solid bits which we call protons etc. 
that assemble into what we call matter.

This is enough advanced science for today, Boinker. I'll allow you to 
return to your science religion and ignore all thoughts that might be 
heresy.

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What's the speed of Gravity? Jerry Kraus <jkraus1999@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 05:56 -0700
  What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 07:32 -0700
    Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Jerry Kraus <jkraus1999@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 07:47 -0700
      Re: What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 08:02 -0700
        Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Jerry Kraus <jkraus1999@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 08:28 -0700
          Re: What's the speed of Gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-02 15:54 +0000
          Re: What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 08:56 -0700
        Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 19:17 +0000
          Re: What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 12:50 -0700
            Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 23:18 +0000
          Re: What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 13:43 -0700
            Re: What's the speed of Gravity? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-02 16:17 -0700
            Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 23:21 +0000
              Re: What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 11:08 -0700
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 18:56 +0000
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-04 07:16 +0200
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 06:39 -0700
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-04 16:26 +0200
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 07:41 -0700
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-04 16:46 +0200
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 08:25 -0700
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-05-04 18:00 +0200
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 16:50 +0000
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-04 15:18 -0400
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-05 18:42 -0700
                Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-05-04 16:33 +0000
            Re: What's the speed of Gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-05-03 06:49 +0000
  Re: What's the speed of Gravity? "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 14:05 -0700
    Re: What's the speed of Gravity? "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2018-05-02 15:37 -0700
  Re: What's the speed of Gravity? Dan Riley <dan131riley@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 10:35 -0400
    Re: What's the speed of Gravity? poraty149@gmail.com - 2018-05-04 00:41 -0700
  Re: What's the speed of Gravity? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-05-03 13:58 -0700

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