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Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today.

From	"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today.
Date	2023-11-23 22:05 -0800
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On 11/23/2023 8:20 AM, Bonita Montero wrote:
> Am 23.11.2023 um 17:07 schrieb Richard Damon:
> 
>> My understanding is that std:atomic needs to honor a read in the sense 
>> that it wlll get the most recent value that has happened "before" the 
>> read (as determined by memory order).
> 
> ... and the read is atomic - even if the trivial object is 1kB in size.

humm.. Say, the read is from a word in memory. Define your trivial 
object, POD, l2 cache line sized, and aligned on a l2 cache line 
boundary? Are you refering to how certain arch works?

> 
>> So, if nothing in the loop can establish a time order with respect to 
>> other threads, then it should be allowed for the compiler to optimize 
>> out the read. ...
> 
> An atomic doesn't cache repeatable reads. The order memory-consistency
> parameter is just for the ordering of other reads and writes.
> 
> 
>

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Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-22 17:35 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-22 13:22 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid> - 2023-11-22 16:17 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-22 21:05 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-22 21:06 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2023-12-01 08:50 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-23 10:02 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 10:35 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-23 19:55 +0000
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-24 10:08 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2023-11-23 11:07 -0500
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 17:20 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2023-11-23 12:50 -0500
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 08:57 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 00:16 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 09:30 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 01:04 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 01:05 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-24 10:23 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 22:05 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 22:53 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 08:53 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 01:06 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 10:10 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 01:14 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 15:32 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 08:08 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-23 08:26 +0000
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 09:31 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 15:39 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-23 19:56 +0000
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 05:26 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 21:53 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 21:59 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 21:47 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-23 20:32 +0000
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 05:27 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-23 21:55 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-24 10:35 +0100
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-24 18:27 +0000
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-24 15:37 -0800
Re: Why volatile may make sense for parallel code today. Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-11-25 13:11 +0100
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