Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...

From	David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...
Date	2023-11-20 08:42 +0100
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 19/11/2023 18:18, Mike Terry wrote:
> 
> It would be better long term if Google could apply some better SPAM 
> filtering technology, perhaps leveraging all their clever AI 
> technology?, to block the spam entering the system in the first place.  
> It's at the point of initial entry that SPAM can be handled with minimum 
> hassle; once it's circulating around the system it's an order of 
> magnitude more effort to deal with. [Yeah, I get that Usenet SPAM is not 
> Google's priority!]
> 

I agree with you here.  Although most of the regulars in these technical 
groups use proper Usenet clients, there are some who - for good or bad 
reasons - use GG.  And it is undoubtedly the main source of new members 
for most groups.

Really, it is absurd that Google are not fixing this issue, because it 
is not just a GG/Usenet matter.  They need to make it more 
time-consuming to open a new google account, involve more user 
interaction, and put limits on the numbers of new accounts from the same 
IP within a short time-frame.  It is far too easy to automate the 
creation of new gmail address accounts, and that is a big source of 
spam, malware and other problems for all of google.  If they stop the 
bots getting the new accounts, then a simple decades-old Bayesian filter 
is enough to identify these spam posts and close the account.

They could also easily have limits on Usenet postings from new accounts. 
  No posts for the first 20 minutes, then max 3 posts in the first 24 
hours.  Combine that with delays, limits and checks on new accounts, and 
the problem would be solved without bothering existing users.

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(comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-11-19 11:23 +0000
  Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2023-11-19 17:18 +0000
    Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 11:51 -0800
    Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-20 08:42 +0100
      Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-11-20 07:56 +0000
        Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-20 13:33 +0100
          Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2023-11-20 18:06 +0000
            Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-20 21:01 +0100
          Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-11-20 20:03 -0500
          Response to "David Brown" (Was: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-11-21 09:30 +0000
            Re: Response to "David Brown" (Was: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-11-21 16:47 +0100
              Re: Response to "David Brown" (Was: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-11-21 16:40 +0000
                Re: Response to "David Brown" (Was: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...) Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2023-11-21 11:49 -0500
                Re: advantage of a web  interface (Was: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-11-21 22:03 +0200
                Re: Response to "David Brown" (Was: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-11-21 16:49 +0000
                Re: Response to "David Brown" (Was: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-11-21 22:23 +0200
              Re: Response to "David Brown" Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-11-21 12:09 -0800
              Re: Response to "David Brown" (Was: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2023-11-21 22:16 +0200
  Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-11-19 12:25 -0800
  Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... Japanese Spammer Here <invalid@invalid.net> - 2023-11-19 23:25 +0000
    Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) - 2023-11-20 00:04 +0000
  Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2023-11-21 14:42 -0600
  Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2023-12-15 09:38 -0500
    Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 11:42 -0600
      Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2023-12-15 18:02 +0000
        Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 12:39 -0600
          Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> - 2023-12-15 19:00 +0000
            Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 14:00 -0600
              Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-12-15 21:00 +0000
                Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 16:23 -0600
                Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-12-15 22:43 +0000
                Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 16:50 -0600
                Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2023-12-16 00:03 +0000
                Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2023-12-16 01:26 +0100
                Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 16:39 -0800
            Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> - 2023-12-15 17:06 -0300
              Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-12-15 16:40 -0800
              Re: (comp.lang.c) More musings on the spam problem... PLO Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2023-12-16 12:52 +0100

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