Re: How did Malibu Media find the exact GPS LOCATION of an IP address 100% of the time WITHOUT contacting the ISP?

From	Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam>
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Subject	Re: How did Malibu Media find the exact GPS LOCATION of an IP address 100% of the time WITHOUT contacting the ISP?
Date	2023-10-25 10:51 -0400
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Please type your IP address into this lookup from Maxmind and let us know 
how accurate it seems to be (given my results were within a neighborhood).
 <https://www.maxmind.com/en/geoip-demo/>

Or simply visit this geolocation web site offered by Maxmind on the net.
 <https://www.maxmind.com/en/locate-my-ip-address>

The result is a latitude/longitude (which we can colloquially call "GPS" 
keeping in mind what Andy Burns brought up) which was within a half mile.
 <https://blog.maxmind.com/2021/07/how-accurate-is-ip-geolocation/>
 "Whether you're localizing content, implementing geofencing, 
  or gathering data for security and analytics, you start with an 
  IP address and hope for something like the latitude and longitude 
  of the end-user."

They provide an overview of how they collect this geolocation data here.
 <https://www.maxmind.com/geoip2-overview-2021-06-08.pdf>
Note that their "Precision" database includes what they call "Insights."

Delving into "Insights", it's further referred to as a "Precision Web 
Service" using "Traffic Analysis" compiled from "Data Points" on the net,
& charges ranging from $0.0001 to $0.002 per query with volume discounts. 

<https://support.maxmind.com/hc/en-us/articles/4408918396571-Lookup-IP-Addresses-in-the-Web-Services>

They say specifically "GeoIP2 geolocation data is never precise enough to 
identify or locate a specific household, individual, or street address"

<https://support.maxmind.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407630607131-Geolocation-Accuracy>

And, surprisingly considering the merit of the aforementioned lawsuit... 
 "we cannot geolocate the *person* who is using the IP address"
because they say people can be using up to 5 different kinds of anonymizers
 VPNs,
 hosting providers,
 public proxies,
 residential proxies,
 and TOR exit nodes, 
and then they go on to say there are other anonymizers such as
 Apple iCloud Private Relay.
 <https://support.maxmind.com/hc/en-us/articles/4408208507163>

And their most accurate databases use a variety IP-intelligence data.
 IP Network Data
 Anonymizer and Proxy Data
 Business VPNs and Consumer Privacy Networks
 User Context Data

<https://support.maxmind.com/hc/en-us/sections/4407512691867-IP-Intelligence-Data>
-- 
Being intelligent enough to be privacy conscious is not a crime.

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