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Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray

From Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray
Date 2016-01-15 16:40 +0100
Organization Me, Myself and I
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In article <PM0005296090C17D7F@aca20255.ipt.aol.com>,
jmfbahciv  <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>Peter Flass wrote:
>> Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> wrote:
>>> Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-01-14 8:03 AM, Peter Flass wrote:>>
>>>
>>>>> DOS channel programs weren't built dynamically.  They were static parts
>>>>> ofhe DTF.  OS programs didn't "carry code to build channel programs", in
>>>>> most cases they were built by OS transients at open.
>>>
>>>> They had to have been built dynamically.  At compile/link/open times
>>>> the data addresses and even the length of the I/O request might
>>>> not be known for all I/O's the program would issue.
>>>> When the channel program is built by an OS transient,
>>>> there is no advantage seem to be any advantage to doing it user mode.
>>>
>>> You don't seem to know much about I/O on the System/360 family.
>>>
>>> In the general case, data was handled in fixed-size records, generally in
>>> blocks of multiple records.  (Card images were very common, 80 bytes often
>>> blocked 10 or 20 for a block size of 800 or 1600.)  Even when variable size
>>> records were used, memory space was allocated for the maximum possible
>record
>>> size.
>>>
>>> So yes, at compile time, the (maxiumu) lengths of I/O requests were known,
>and
>>> at run time they were obeyed.  The data addresses of buffers were decided
>at
>>> linkage time, in the user's block of memory.  There was more dynamism under
>>> OS/360 than under DOS/360, but not all that much.
>>>
>>> The same kind of thing is true in Tops-10 for the PDP-10 family.  I/O
>buffers
>>> are part of the user's address space.  TOPS-20, on the other hand,
>allocates
>>> buffers in the monitor's (= kernel's) address space and moves data into and
>out
>>> of the user program as needed.  This means that certain things can be done
>in
>>> Tops-10 that are (damned near) impossible in TOPS-20, but that does not
>make
>>> either one superior, just different.
>>>
>>
>> Except for the amount of data movement required.  I don't think any OS
>> plays games with the memory map, but why not do I/O to buffers in kernel
>> space and then just map them into the user's address space?
>
>Accounting.

Tops20 can do i/o to user space, in two ways. One with having the pages
aligned in memory and disk and setting some bits, and the other in memory
mapping the disk.

In both cases the i/o is an integral number of pages; and access control
is enforced.

-- mrr

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  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-02 13:41 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-02 17:19 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:30 -0500
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:24 -0700
          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:16 -0500
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          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 17:18 -0700
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 14:23 -0500
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-02 20:52 +0000
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-02 19:04 -0400
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-10-03 05:37 -0500
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-03 08:47 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-03 08:59 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 09:58 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-03 12:22 -0700
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2015-10-02 15:36 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:16 -0500
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-02 17:47 -0700
  Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 04:55 -0700
    Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-03 12:39 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 12:56 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-03 20:29 +0000
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-03 20:43 -0700
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-03 13:51 -0700
        Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:10 -0500
          Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:38 -0500
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-05 16:58 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-05 17:18 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-06 17:00 +0000
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                Re: fare collection Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-07 01:17 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:44 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:31 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 23:26 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 00:54 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 07:44 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-06 14:59 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-06 14:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-06 18:03 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-10-06 16:22 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:22 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-07 18:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 07:54 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 14:33 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 14:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 16:52 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-07 19:30 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-07 18:58 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:25 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:27 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 09:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 14:10 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 14:25 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 20:25 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:27 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 17:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:40 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:27 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 15:01 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-11 18:45 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 22:28 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-12 13:44 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-12 09:55 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-12 08:36 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:52 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 09:00 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 18:29 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 15:06 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 12:17 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 19:40 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-08 14:35 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 00:07 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-09 00:10 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 20:01 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 19:38 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:59 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:00 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-10 16:12 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 08:16 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 14:15 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-12 15:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:41 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-13 07:43 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-13 12:18 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-11 16:37 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-12 16:21 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 19:54 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-13 12:28 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-13 21:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-11 08:35 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 08:40 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-10-11 12:13 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-10 19:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 22:51 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:37 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 12:07 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 13:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:37 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:16 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 20:11 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-09 13:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 21:46 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 16:47 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 18:18 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:39 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 07:47 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-08 16:03 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:00 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 08:39 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-08 08:57 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 14:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 13:30 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 23:36 -0500
                Re: IBM disks, was the legacy of Seymour Cray John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-10 05:18 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 11:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:42 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-10 18:08 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-08 13:12 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-08 10:34 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-13 15:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 08:03 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:10 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-01-14 14:49 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-14 15:00 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-01-14 14:28 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-14 19:57 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-14 22:24 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-15 14:51 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-15 16:40 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2016-01-15 14:18 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray timcaffrey420@gmail.com - 2016-01-15 15:57 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-15 22:22 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 15:24 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-18 16:35 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-18 17:46 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-14 11:13 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-08 19:57 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> - 2016-01-08 21:50 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:23 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-08 14:27 -0800
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-09 13:31 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-09 17:22 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2016-01-14 13:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-01-08 17:01 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-09 01:10 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-01-08 22:33 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-09 23:43 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-07 16:34 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-07 19:38 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 19:17 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 09:45 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 14:05 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:06 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-08 16:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:35 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-09 18:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 00:22 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:44 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-07 18:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-08 14:36 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 11:57 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-08 12:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-10-08 21:09 -0600
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray terry+googleblog@tmk.com - 2015-10-09 06:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-08 15:12 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-10-08 17:47 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:32 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-08 12:12 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 21:40 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 16:33 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-06 17:32 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-07 01:17 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:29 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-07 08:13 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-06 23:19 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2015-10-06 11:44 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:24 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-08 11:33 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:13 +0200
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 12:20 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 10:32 +0100
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 15:42 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-10-09 11:19 +0100
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:34 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-12 23:23 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-13 10:36 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-13 11:39 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:23 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 10:51 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-13 18:34 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:59 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-13 17:47 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 03:15 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-14 07:07 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-10-13 17:43 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-14 05:39 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 13:11 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 20:52 -0400
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-13 14:43 -0400
            Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-05 17:26 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-05 18:43 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-10-05 22:32 -0700
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 23:33 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-10-06 08:03 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:36 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray The New Other Guy <Newsgnus@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:53 -0700
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-10-10 15:54 +0000
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-11 13:51 -0500
              Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-06 16:30 -0500
                Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Joe Morris" <j.c.morris@verizon.net> - 2015-10-06 19:44 -0400
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-10-05 12:02 -0500
      Re: the legacy of Seymour Cray "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-05 16:46 -0500

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