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| From | "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.project, linux.debian.bugs.dist |
| Subject | Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service |
| Date | 2017-08-07 20:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ubUNc-3Tz-15@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Sun, Aug 06, 2017 at 02:15:17PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 4 août 2017 20:03 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> : > > No, at worst this is misuse of Debian ressources for commercial gain - > > i.e. using long description field for advertising a non-free service. > > We have all kind of software advertising non-free services. Search for > "Google" or "Amazon". The comparison is even unfair as the service > advertised here is available as free software (not the case for most > services from Amazon and Google we advertise). If other packages are worse, that means they should be fixed, not that this should be allowed. > Example: [s3cmd] How is this not in contrib? This software is useless without the non-free service (which is also software, and it is not in main) from Amazon. Policy even mentions as an example for things in contrib: wrapper packages or other sorts of free accessories for non-free programs. That's exactly what this is. I didn't know that this was in main, and I expect most others to not know either. But I don't think they should be. I wouldn't expect this to be controversial, but it seems that it is, given that you suggest they obviously belong in main? To be clear: the sort of software (of this type) I expect in main is like mumble: it connects to a server, and you can connect to a commercially hosted server if you want to, but you can also run your own server, because it's free software. If the mumble server would not be free, and the only way to use the client was to connect to a commercial server, mumble should not be in main. As I wrote, I expected there to be consensus on this. Am I incorrect about that? Thanks, Bas
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Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2017-08-05 02:10 +0200
Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-08-05 15:50 +0200
Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <bas@wijnen.dtdns.net> - 2017-08-06 09:30 +0200
Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2017-08-06 17:30 +0200
Bug#856139: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-08-06 14:20 +0200
Bug#856139: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2017-08-06 14:40 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-08-07 20:20 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-08-07 21:00 +0200
Debian packages advertising non-free services (was: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service) Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 01:40 +0200
Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 07:40 +0200
Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-08 07:50 +0200
Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 09:00 +0200
Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 10:10 +0200
Re: Debian packages advertising non-free services Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 08:20 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-08-08 05:50 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2017-08-11 14:10 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-08-11 17:00 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Faidon Liambotis <paravoid@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 00:00 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2017-08-12 05:50 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 08:30 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 09:00 +0200
Are online services also software for Debian's rules? "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 09:40 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 10:00 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-12 10:10 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 11:20 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 12:10 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 17:20 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-08-13 22:10 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2017-08-13 23:10 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-14 02:30 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-08-14 02:30 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-08-14 14:10 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-08-14 15:00 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-08-14 15:10 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-08-14 15:30 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Marc Haber <mh+debian-project@zugschlus.de> - 2017-08-14 15:30 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2017-08-14 19:40 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Andrey Rahmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2017-08-14 19:50 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-12 12:10 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-08-12 16:00 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-12 16:20 +0200
Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules? Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-08-12 16:50 +0200
win32-loader (was: Re: Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service) Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 17:00 +0200
Re: [pkg-go] Bug#856139: certspotter: long description advertises commercial service Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2017-08-12 17:40 +0200
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