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Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk

From Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk
Date 2017-12-03 18:40 +0100
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On 12/03/2017 06:49 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

> Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-12-03 10:49 (UTC+0100):
>
>> Felix Miata composed:
> ...
>> So I guess that the OP means that the core image of GRUB is in sda1, and
>> the boot image of GRUB is in the MBR of sda.
>   Based on OP's response to
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/11/msg00563.html
>
> in
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/11/msg00935.html
>
> I'm pretty sure that was not OP's intent, i.e., none of Grub at all in MBR.

Yes, no grub in mbr - unless installer insists.


> ...
>>> The option the OP chose is to intervene ab initio. When Grub is installed to an
>>> MBR primary partition, and the MBR contains legacy boot code, and a boot flag is
>>> appropriately set, and the same policy is maintained, a subsequent installation
>>> makes no attempt to usurp control from the first.
>> That does not match my experience. A subsequent installation does not
>> care about what kind of boot code is in the MBR nor whether a boot flag
>> is set....
>   Grub does not care about boot flags, but when depending on legacy (neutral[1])
> MBR code to locate the partition from which to boot, as was the apparent plan by
> the OP, it's crucial.
>
> The installers of most Linux distros default to installing Grub to the MBR. Some
> make it difficult to determine whether any other option even exists. It's been
> several months since I last installed Stretch. I don't remember how it presents
> bootloader installation location, or more importantly, if when partition is
> selected on a device with no installed operating systems, a separate action is
> required to ensure the MBR contains any boot code at all.
>
> [1]
> <https://old-en.opensuse.org/Bugs/grub#How_does_a_PC_boot_.2F_How_can_I_set_up_a_working_GRUB.3F>

FWIW, this done just now:

# gdisk /dev/sda
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10

Partition table scan:
   MBR: protective
   BSD: not present
   APM: not present
   GPT: present

Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.

Command (? for help): b
Enter backup filename to save: mbrforgpt
The operation has completed successfully.

Command (? for help): q

# ls -l mbr*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17920 Dec  4 05:47 mbrforgpt

# mc -v mbrforgpt
The above shows 0x55AA at +0x1FE (Boot signature [1]).
Also, the search for 'ERROR:' is not found in the entire 17920 bytes of 
file mbrforgpt.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record

Apparently, all is in readiness. It's simply that this PC is not loading 
the mbr or anything else from sda. Any other opinions?

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BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-01 20:00 +0100
  Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-12-01 21:00 +0100
    Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-02 19:30 +0100
      Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-12-02 20:30 +0100
  Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-12-02 03:00 +0100
    Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-02 05:10 +0100
      Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-12-02 20:40 +0100
        Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-03 04:50 +0100
          Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-04 00:40 +0100
          Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-12-04 06:20 +0100
            Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-12-04 06:30 +0100
              Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-04 15:40 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-12-05 01:50 +0100
              Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-04 16:30 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-12-05 02:40 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-12-05 07:00 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-12-06 00:20 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-12-07 07:00 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-12-05 23:30 +0100
            Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-05 22:50 +0100
        Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-04 03:40 +0100
      Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-12-02 22:40 +0100
        Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-03 00:20 +0100
          Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-12-03 00:40 +0100
            Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-12-03 05:50 +0100
          Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-12-03 11:00 +0100
            Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-03 12:50 +0100
              Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-03 18:40 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-03 19:10 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-03 20:40 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-12-03 20:20 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2017-12-03 22:00 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-03 23:00 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-12-03 23:50 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-04 00:50 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-12-05 00:50 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-05 03:40 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-12-06 23:20 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-07 00:10 +0100
                Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-12-07 21:50 +0100
                Re: (OT) BIOS Can Not Find Disk Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-12-08 00:10 +0100
      Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-12-03 11:10 +0100
        Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-02-21 04:10 +0100
          Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-02-21 23:20 +0100
            Re: BIOS Can Not Find Disk Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-02-22 02:20 +0100

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