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Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc.

From <tomas@tuxteam.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc.
Date 2017-11-24 08:10 +0100
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On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 03:39:58AM +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> 
> > I do not disparage the hard work some devs
> > have put into Linux CAD routines, but I don't
> > think that's the way to go if you're going to
> > do some serious CAD work over the course
> > of time.
> 
> ... why not?

Because that's what Autodesk wants you to believe.

For those of us around a little longer, perhaps you remember that
time when GNU/Linux started to get some traction. At that time,
Microsoft used to say that well, an OS wasn't that hard, but for
something really complex like a web browser... the free software
couldn't really pull that off.

Shortly thereafter Mozilla smashed Internet Explorer into the
ground.

Closed software vendors want you to believe that Professional (TM)
is only possible as proprietary software, and some people (hi,
Doug: no offense intended) swallow this bait, including hook and
sinker (after all, closed software vendors put "some" money into
that, as part of their publicity operation).

This is one of the most damaging mechanisms to free software these
days. Vendors have become much more subtle: watch Microsoft deploying
Linux in their cloud and trumpeting "We love Open Source[1]" --
behind the scenes they are massaging decision makers[2] to fear the
GPL (because this one has teeth).

Pretty disgusting, actually :-(

Cheers

[1] See? They don't want Free Software. They don't want you, the
   user, to be free -- they just want a free ride.
[2] If necessary wining and dining them, to the tune of $$$

- -- tomás
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software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-21 20:00 +0100
  Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2017-11-21 22:50 +0100
    Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-21 23:10 +0100
      Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-21 23:50 +0100
        Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-22 00:10 +0100
        Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-22 00:10 +0100
      Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-11-22 04:10 +0100
        Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-11-22 11:40 +0100
          Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-22 15:00 +0100
          Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-22 15:10 +0100
          Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-11-22 19:10 +0100
            Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Tom Furie <tom@furie.org.uk> - 2017-11-22 21:40 +0100
              Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-23 02:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. "hdv@gmail" <hdv.jadev@gmail.com> - 2017-11-23 08:50 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-11-23 09:20 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. "hdv@gmail" <hdv.jadev@gmail.com> - 2017-11-23 12:50 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-23 13:00 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-23 10:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-11-23 17:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-23 18:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@gmail.com> - 2017-11-23 13:50 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-23 21:30 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-11-23 22:30 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-23 23:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-11-24 03:40 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-24 03:50 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-24 08:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Anil Duggirala <anilduggirala@fastmail.fm> - 2017-11-24 09:20 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-24 09:30 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-24 09:40 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-24 09:50 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-24 11:10 +0100
                "Professional" [was: software to do drawings of houses, gardens,  etc.] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-24 12:00 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-11-28 05:40 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> - 2017-11-28 09:00 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-11-28 13:20 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-11-28 16:20 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-28 22:00 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2017-11-29 07:50 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-28 22:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. "Brian J. Oney" <brian.j.oney@googlemail.com> - 2017-11-28 09:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-28 21:50 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-23 23:40 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-24 00:00 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-24 00:30 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-24 08:00 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-24 11:20 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2017-11-24 12:20 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-24 13:00 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2017-11-24 13:00 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> - 2017-11-24 13:30 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2017-11-24 17:10 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Cousin Stanley <cousinstanley@gmail.com> - 2017-11-24 18:20 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Weaver <weaver@riseup.net> - 2017-11-24 18:30 +0100
                Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Gary Roach <gary719_list1@verizon.net> - 2017-11-24 22:40 +0100
  Re: software to do drawings of houses, gardens, etc. Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-11-21 22:50 +0100

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