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Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding

From Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org>
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Subject Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding
Date 2017-11-17 20:30 +0100
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Enrico Zini dijo [Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 05:46:52PM +0100]:
> I would be ok with saying that emeritus people who have a valid gpg key
> can still have email forwarding, exporting the emeritus keyring
> alongside the other keyrings, and handling email forwarding
> configuration changes via changes@db.debian.org, and key replacements as
> usual.
> 
> It would exclude people who don't have a viable gpg key anymore in the
> keyring, or who are not interested in maintaining one, but that is
> already the case mostly anywhere in Debian, and I don't see it as a
> blocker for keeping forwarding working as long as someone is emeritus
> and has a key in the emeritus keyring.
> 
> I would also be ok saying that people whose keys in the emeritus keyring
> become invalid over time, because they expire or because they are not
> replaced when needed, move to "removed" status after a while.

FWIW some other people have expressed procedure concerns on this
topic, I am not repeating them.

We (keyring-maint) do keep an Emeritus keyring. Given it is not really
_used_, I had not checked its real status in a long time, but now I
must really take off my hat towards Jonathan - It is quite well
maintained.

It used to be a very large directory:

    https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/keyring/keyring.git/tree/emeritus-keyring-gpg?id=f6293ba7d7c4e775b3b83185e66da41f4765721f

But since Jonathan removed short keys in it (as they are keys we will
never use again and should no longer consider trusted), it became way
smaller. Current view:

    https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/keyring/keyring.git/tree/emeritus-keyring-gpg

Anyway, we could continue to receive updates for and process the
Emeritus' keyring, if any person in it was interested in doing so... I
doubt it would be the case. We can also produce that keyring together
with our updates if any infrastructure were to use it.

I have a feeling it would mostly be over-engineering, though. Keeping
the mail alias working "forever" sounds right, but I expect that any
mail update requests would still end up in a human to implement.

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Emeritus status, and email forwarding Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-11-15 13:00 +0100
  Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2017-11-15 13:50 +0100
    Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> - 2017-11-15 17:50 +0100
      Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2017-11-17 20:30 +0100
  Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-11-15 15:50 +0100
    Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Peter Palfrader <weasel@debian.org> - 2017-11-15 16:20 +0100
      Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-11-15 17:10 +0100
        Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages] Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2017-11-15 17:30 +0100
          Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages] Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-11-15 18:20 +0100
          Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages] Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-11-16 00:30 +0100
            Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages] Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2017-11-16 12:20 +0100
        Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding [and 1 more messages] Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2017-11-16 01:10 +0100
  Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-11-17 23:10 +0100
    Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> - 2017-11-18 11:20 +0100
      Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-11-18 12:40 +0100
  Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro> - 2017-12-07 12:00 +0100
    Re: Emeritus status, and email forwarding Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2017-12-07 14:30 +0100

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