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| From | Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? |
| Date | 2017-10-27 14:20 +0200 |
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On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 07:49:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >On Friday 27 October 2017 03:46:27 Mart van de Wege wrote: > >> Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> writes: >> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:24:32PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: >> >> Actually, there's no need to duplicate the effort. As I understand >> >> it, resolvconf is basically an optional helper program. Software >> >> that automatically modifies /etc/resolv.conf should first test for >> >> the presence of resolvconf (whether that be checking for the >> >> configuration directory of resolvconf or checking that resolvconf >> >> is running or... however resolvconf desires to be detected). If >> >> resolvconf is available, the changes are co-ordinated through >> >> resolvconf, otherwise, /etc/resolv.conf is modified directly. >> > >> > In my case resolvconf is not installed/available and I want >> > resolv.conf to be left alone. I want any other package that thinks >> > it needs to modify resolv.conf to leave it along. >> >> But there *is* a way to do that: install resolvconf. >> >> Granted, it might be nice if resolvconf had an easier way to configure >> a static setup, but as it is now packages that need to access >> resolv.conf should do this through resolvconf if it is available, so >> installing and configuring it *is* the right way to handle this. >> >> Mart > >I must argue against it, until as you say, resolvconf is given a well >documented way to be told to leave a "static" system alone. Until such >time, I'll make /etc/resolv.conf a real file, and mark it >and /etc/network/interfaces immutable. > >And frankly, I'm getting tired of the arguments saying it must be >installed. Who's saying it must be installed? Maybe I've missed something, but I think the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your resolv.conf to be unmanaged/static/administrator-controlled, then don't have resolvconf installed. If you have resolvconf installed, then what's the point of neutering it with a command? (I realise that there are some packages that come with, say, ENABLED=no in /etc/default, but that's usually there because sensible defaults are difficult, and the package needs to be configured before use. Not so with resolvconf). > Not all machines are lappy's being toted to Micky D's for >connectivity, where it /might/ make some modicum of sense IF it Just >Worked. Here, it didn't just work on a jessie install, took me around an >hour fighting with its local keyboard, to make networking work on the >jessie install, and 15 minutes to make stretch work, but there I wasn't >fighting with a kernel bug that kills keyboards and mice. So it didn't >Just Work on a stretch install. > >So until such time as resolv.conf can look at /etc/network/interfaces, >and finding the "static" keyword, leave that interface alone, it will be >nuked on sight with a root rm... > >If by the debian 10 release, it must be installed, them MAKE IT WORK. My >way, so far, does that. > >In my experience its a solution looking for a problem, and if it doesn't >find one, it will make one. It's network-manager by a new name, and >just as worthless. > >Cheers, Gene Heskett >-- >"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >-Ed Howdershelt (Author) >Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > -- For more information, please reread.
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Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-23 04:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-10-23 11:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-23 11:50 +0200
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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-24 05:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-24 09:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-24 14:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-24 14:30 +0200
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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-25 15:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-25 20:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roger Lynn <Roger@rilynn.me.uk> - 2017-10-25 00:30 +0200
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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-23 13:00 +0200
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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-23 23:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-10-24 00:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-24 02:40 +0200
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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 05:10 +0200
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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Alberto Luaces <aluaces@udc.es> - 2017-10-25 14:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 15:30 +0200
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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-10-25 17:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-25 17:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-10-25 19:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-25 19:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-10-25 19:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-25 14:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-10-25 05:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-25 13:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-25 14:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2017-10-25 14:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-10-25 14:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-10-25 14:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-25 14:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2017-10-25 15:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2017-10-25 17:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-25 18:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 21:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 13:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2017-10-26 17:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-26 17:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-10-26 18:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2017-10-26 18:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2017-10-26 18:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-27 02:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-27 02:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Jörg-Volker Peetz <jvpeetz@web.de> - 2017-10-23 12:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-25 05:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 06:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-25 06:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-25 08:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-25 14:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-25 14:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-25 15:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-25 15:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-25 15:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-10-25 15:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-25 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 16:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 16:10 +0200
[SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 20:30 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 20:40 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-25 20:40 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-25 21:00 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 21:00 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-26 15:10 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-26 15:40 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-26 16:00 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Don Armstrong <don@debian.org> - 2017-10-26 21:40 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-26 21:40 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2017-10-26 16:30 +0200
The new normal of logging Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2017-10-26 21:10 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2017-10-26 21:30 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-27 02:10 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-10-27 03:30 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-27 07:00 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-10-28 04:50 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-28 08:10 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2017-10-27 04:10 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-10-27 11:40 +0200
Plain text vs. binary (was Re: The new normal of logging) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-10-27 14:40 +0200
Re: The new normal of logging Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-26 21:30 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-27 17:10 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-27 17:50 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-27 20:30 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-10-27 20:50 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-10-27 21:50 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-27 22:00 +0200
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-28 18:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-26 05:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-26 12:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-10-26 13:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-26 13:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-26 16:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-26 17:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2017-10-27 10:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-27 13:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-10-27 14:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-27 14:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-27 20:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-27 20:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-27 16:20 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2017-10-28 00:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-28 00:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-10-28 02:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2017-10-28 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2017-10-28 18:50 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2017-10-28 15:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-27 16:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2017-10-28 00:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-27 16:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2017-10-28 02:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-26 14:40 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roger Lynn <Roger@rilynn.me.uk> - 2017-11-04 00:30 +0100
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-04 08:50 +0100
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-11-04 13:10 +0100
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-11-04 22:00 +0100
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-11-04 22:10 +0100
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-11-04 22:10 +0100
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-11-04 15:40 +0100
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-10-26 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2017-10-25 15:00 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-25 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 15:10 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-10-25 15:30 +0200
Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2017-10-25 16:20 +0200
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