Re: How to gain control over the system?

From	Kaj Persson <70147persson@telia.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: How to gain control over the system?
Date	2017-07-09 19:10 +0200
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Well, as I wrote my /home is an own partition, and so it has been for a 
long time. So it is not a new copy but a new mount. Certainly it 
therefore contains old config files that maybe ought to be removed. But 
on the other hand almost all of them are reused, since many  of them 
belong to applications which I want to install also in the new system.

Also, as I wrote, I did a test by moving all these config files into a 
new directory "hidden", itself not hidden despite the name, inside the 
home directory (and partition).
/Kaj


On 2017-07-09 at 15:38, Fungi4All wrote:
> Again, did you copy your /home from a previous system or is it a new
> configuration that locked your panels?
>
>> UTC Time: July 9, 2017 12:54 PM
>> From: 70147persson@telia.com
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>
>> Thank you all for thoughts and viewpoints on what can be wrong in my
>> installation of Debian 9. I have looked through places I might expect
>> can contain some explanation, but so far I have not been able to exclaim
>> an "Ah, that"s it!". Here are some of my observations:
>>
>> * First source of install: Well, I do know I wrote that used the live
>> image, but to be honest, for now I am not sure, I do not remember. I had
>> downloaded the live image as well as the install image, and most
>> probable choice would be the later. But I do not know. Anyway the
>> install process itself went without any problems.
>>
>> * At the install I made it fully new from the bottom. The only directory
>> I kept unchanged was my home directory. This is situated on an own
>> partition. All the others were reformatted: /, /boot, /usr, /var and
>> /tmp. All these are on individual partitions while e.g. /etc is
>> contained in the root partition. At earlier installations I have noticed
>> that the home directory can contain wrong configuration files, so as a
>> test I moved all hidden files i.e. files starting with a dot to a new
>> created directory "hidden". This was however after the install. So at a
>> subsequent cold start the system had no configuration files there but
>> created new ones with default values. This however had no positive
>> impact on my problem.
>>
>> * Configuring sudo? No I have not done that explicitly, not more than
>> what the install program did itself. I have looked at /etc/sudoers and
>> what I think the important lines are:
>>
>> # User privilege specification
>> root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
>>
>> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
>> %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
>>
>> #includedir /etc/sudoers.d
>>
>> In /etc/sudoers.d there are no more files than README.
>>
>> There is no /etc/sudo.conf file.
>>
>> * Regarding access to my user directory: During my search I did in fact
>> find some files and directories owned by user root or group root. These
>> are changed to be owned by my user id and group id, but this did not
>> help. By the way, On this computer I have always had just one user,
>> mine, and hence got the user id 1000 and group id 1000. This is the case
>> now too.
>>
>> uid 1000 is a member of the sudo group.
>>
>> * As I wrote I have always used this method of not setting any password
>> to the root account, and this is for quite many years now. My Linux path
>> has gone via Ubuntu, well to be honest a couple of years after the
>> Microsoft era I ran in Suse, but was not fully satisfied. And when
>> Ubuntu and Canonical introduced Unity, I left that ship for Linux Mint
>> Debian edition (LMDE) until I took the last(?) step into Debian a couple
>> of years ago where the entrance point was jessie. The empty root
>> password has always worked fine until now. Possibly Ubuntu has patched
>> the sudologin but should LMDE? And jessie? I do not think so.
>>
>>
>> Hope someone can find something significant in this and give a hint on
>> what to do.
>>
>> Kaj
>>
>>
>>
>

Thread

How to gain control over the system? Kaj Persson <70147persson@telia.com> - 2017-07-09 00:10 +0200
  Re: How to gain control over the system? Oflameo <oflameo2@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 00:30 +0200
    Re: How to gain control over the system? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-09 01:00 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 11:30 +0200
        Re: How to gain control over the system? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 12:00 +0200
  Re: How to gain control over the system? davidson@freevolt.org - 2017-07-09 01:30 +0200
    Re: How to gain control over the system? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-09 12:10 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-07-09 13:50 +0200
  Re: How to gain control over the system? Kaj Persson <70147persson@telia.com> - 2017-07-09 15:10 +0200
    Re: How to gain control over the system? [a security-side-note] Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2017-07-09 16:00 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? [a security-side-note] Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 16:20 +0200
    Re: How to gain control over the system? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-09 19:00 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? Kaj Persson <70147persson@telia.com> - 2017-07-09 19:10 +0200
        Re: How to gain control over the system? Kaj Persson <70147persson@telia.com> - 2017-07-09 23:40 +0200
    Re: How to gain control over the system? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-10 01:40 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? Kaj Persson <70147persson@telia.com> - 2017-07-11 22:40 +0200
        Re: How to gain control over the system? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-07-11 23:00 +0200
          Re: How to gain control over the system? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-07-11 23:10 +0200
        Re: How to gain control over the system? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-07-12 03:50 +0200
          Re: How to gain control over the system? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-07-12 14:30 +0200
          Re: How to gain control over the system? Kaj Persson <kape_fin@algonet.se> - 2017-07-13 12:30 +0200
            Re: How to gain control over the system? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-07-13 13:20 +0200
              Re: How to gain control over the system? Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-07-13 14:20 +0200
                Re: How to gain control over the system? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-07-13 15:20 +0200
              Re: How to gain control over the system? tomas@tuxteam.de - 2017-07-13 15:20 +0200
                Re: How to gain control over the system? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-07-13 16:30 +0200
  Re: How to gain control over the system? Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-09 22:30 +0200
    Re: How to gain control over the system? Kaj Persson <kape_fin@algonet.se> - 2017-07-10 00:40 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 00:50 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 03:10 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-07-10 10:00 +0200
      Re: How to gain control over the system? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-07-12 14:40 +0200
        Re: How to gain control over the system? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-07-12 15:30 +0200
          Re: How to gain control over the system? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-07-16 15:50 +0200
            Re: How to gain control over the system? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2017-07-16 16:50 +0200

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