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Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

From fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.kde
Subject Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
Date 2017-04-22 13:30 +0200
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Hi everyone

On 25/03/17 18:50:08 CEST, fradev  wrote:
> Here are the dependencies of task-kde-desktop, on the right my suggestions.
> 
> task-kde-desktop
>   Depends: tasksel
>   Depends: task-desktop
>   Depends: kde-standard
>   Depends: sddm
>   Recommends: kdeaccessibility        --> change to: Suggests
>   Recommends: gnome-orca              --> change to: Suggests
>   Recommends: k3b                     --> change to: Suggests
>   Recommends: k3b-i18n                --> change to: Suggests
>   Recommends: plasma-nm
>   Recommends: kdesudo
>   Recommends: libreoffice-kde
>   Recommends: apper                   --> substitute with: synaptic
>   Recommends: gimp
>   Recommends: firefox-esr
>   Recommends: libreoffice
>   Recommends: libreoffice-help-en-us
>   Recommends: mythes-en-us
>   Recommends: hunspell-en-us
>   Recommends: hyphen-en-us
>   Recommends: system-config-printer
>   Recommends: dragonplayer            --> substitute with: vlc

(original message here [1])

I didn't received many feedbacks about this and I'm thinking to send a bug
report (wishlist) proposing the changes highlighted above.

What concerns me the most here is apper. Summarising:
- apper should be dead upstream 
- plasma-discover is too bugged to be used as a replacement
- update-notifications don't seem to work with both (at least for me)
- what about muon?
- synaptic seems to be the only sane alternative but doesn't provide
  update-notifications
- pk-update-icon provides update-notifications but depends on gnome-packagekit

Despite the integration with the Plasma desktop I think it is essential to 
provide (also) a good graphical package manager with update-notifications. What 
do you think about it?

Francesco

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2017/03/msg00041.html

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Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 21:40 +0100
  Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-17 11:10 +0100
    Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 06:30 +0100
      Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 14:50 +0100
        Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 16:20 +0100
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Thom Castermans <thom.castermans@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 17:20 +0100
            Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-20 19:40 +0100
      Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-25 19:10 +0100
        Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-30 18:00 +0200
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 19:30 +0200
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 01:50 +0200
            Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-31 12:40 +0200
              Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Maximiliano Curia <maxy@debian.org> - 2017-03-31 13:40 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2017-03-31 17:40 +0200
                Bug#840844: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Maximiliano Curia <maxy@gnuservers.com.ar> - 2017-03-31 18:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2017-03-31 19:10 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-01 12:40 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-04-02 09:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-04-02 14:40 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-05 08:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-05 08:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-05 08:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 13:30 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-05 15:30 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-04-05 20:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-06 00:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 01:30 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Nick <nick@steelyglint.org> - 2017-04-16 00:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-04-18 22:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Nick <nick@steelyglint.org> - 2017-04-23 17:00 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-04-23 20:00 +0200
        Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-22 13:30 +0200
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Luigi Toscano <luigi.toscano@tiscali.it> - 2017-04-22 14:00 +0200
            Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-22 16:40 +0200
              Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-05-07 18:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2017-05-14 11:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-05-14 12:40 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Sandro Knauß <bugs@sandroknauss.de> - 2017-05-15 22:30 +0200
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-05-18 19:50 +0200
            Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 02:50 +0200
  Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 16:00 +0100
    Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Luigi Toscano <luigi.toscano@tiscali.it> - 2017-03-17 18:00 +0100

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