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Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot
Date 2017-04-15 03:40 +0200
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On Fri 14 Apr 2017 at 12:05:38 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/13/2017 05:55 PM, Brian wrote:
> >On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 20:05:22 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> >
> >>David is right : you don't really boot from the SD card.
> >
> >The OP never claimed he was booting from the SD card. He particularly
> >said he did not install GRUB to the card.
> >
> >>GRUB is on the HDD. The kernel is on the HDD. Only the root filesystem is on
> >>the SD card.
> >
> >Yes. That's what the linux line says too.
> >
> 
> I'll try to clarify some details.
> 
> My installation protocol.
>  1. I always use "Expert" as that way the installer will
>     do fewer things I'm not aware of.
>  2. I only install Grub the *first* time I do a Debian install.
>     By poor design Grub puts the current install first on menu.

When are you going to let this drop?

On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 08:23:19 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:

| What I need:
|   1. newest install to be on bottom of the list

On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:33:49 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:

| The GRUB team made many reasonable design decisions.
| Though they match vast MAJORITY of users, their choices annoy me every
| time I boot ;<
|
| What would fit best with my habits is that the precedence of OS to
| boot would be
| "first installed -> first boot choice" *NOT* "last installed -> first
| boot choice".

On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 08:47:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote:

| The latest installation goes to the top of the displayed list and is
| also selected as the default OS to boot.
| That is unsatisfactory as the first OS will will always be closest to
| a standard install - i.e. most likely to run.

On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 13:53:59 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:

| What I *REQUIRE* is that GRUB2's menu list available OS monotonically
| by partition number. For reasons of logic and sanity the menu items
| should be in the order of
| sda1, sda2, ..., sdaMAX. I could work with sdaMAX, ..., sda2, sda1 .
|
| The purpose AND rationale SHALL be that the default OS choice *SHALL
| BE* the first OS installed.



>     When experimenting with configuration as I do, the least
>     likely install to be functional is the latest.
>     This requires me to run update-grub on the "good" install.
>  3. Similarly a swap partition is specified only on the first
>     install as the installer insists on destroying the UUID of
>     the existing swap partition. It is simpler to edit only the
>     fstab of latest install than to edit those for all other
>     installs each time.
>  4. All installs in this thread have been done using DVD 1 of
>     13 of Debian 8.6.0 - thus all intrinsically use the same
>     kernel.
> 
> I've done some additional observations and test installs.
> 1. The BIOS of the Lenovo T510 can be directed to boot from
>    the CD/DVD drive, hard disk, or any attached USB flash
>    drive. It *cannot* be directed to boot from the SD card.
> 2. I did an install to a USB flash drive including installing
>    Grub2 to the MBR of that flash drive. When selecting the
>    SD card from the grub menu I see nothing different.
> 3. I did a new install to the SD card specifying a different set
>    of packages and installing grub to the MBR of the SD card.
>    Once again no behavioral difference.

Observation 1 would make that inevitable, wouldn't it. Unless, of
course, you stick your SD card in a card reader. These little gizmos
used to be bundled with SD cards when you bought them; I don't know if
they still are. I have a large one that came free with the first
(only) SD card I bought, and a couple of tiny ones that came with
SDmicros bought a long while back. The latter also come with
converters so that you can put an SDmicro in the SD reader or an SD
slot.

> Does any of this justify a bug report. Especially as I do not
> have the bandwidth to do a netinstall of a pre-release version?

You've posted your grub.cfg but I haven't bothered to try and
reverse engineer how you produced it. I haven't seen any
behaviour yet that I would call a bug. What did you have in mind?
You could say whether you think the bug is in the _generation_ of
grub.cfg or in its _execution_ when you boot.

Cheers,
David.

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Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-12 13:20 +0200
  Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-12 14:50 +0200
    Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-12 17:20 +0200
      Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-12 19:20 +0200
        Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-12 20:40 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-12 21:10 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 13:50 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-13 17:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 19:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-13 20:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 01:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-14 19:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 18:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 20:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-15 20:20 +0200
                Re: customized Grub (was: Possibly erroneous "device not present...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-04-15 21:00 +0200
                Re: customized Grub (was: Possibly erroneous "device not present...) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:20 +0200
                Re: customized Grub Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 22:40 +0200
                Re: customized Grub Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-04-16 11:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 00:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 21:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-18 00:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 00:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-18 20:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-18 20:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-15 02:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 02:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 11:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 16:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 19:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 20:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 23:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 23:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-16 00:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 03:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-04-17 10:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 21:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-18 20:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-19 00:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 00:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-19 20:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 21:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-19 22:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 13:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-22 19:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 20:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 20:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-22 20:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 21:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 23:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-04-15 21:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 22:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 13:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-15 16:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 19:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 19:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 19:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 21:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 03:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-04-17 23:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-18 00:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 16:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 17:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 19:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 21:10 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-12 21:30 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 13:50 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:30 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 17:20 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 18:30 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-04-17 22:50 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-18 21:00 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-04-19 05:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-04-19 09:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-19 20:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 00:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-22 15:50 +0200
        Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-12 21:00 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 18:00 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:00 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-14 20:50 +0200
      Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 19:50 +0200
        Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-14 20:40 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 12:50 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-15 16:10 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 19:00 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 19:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 20:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 23:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 00:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 04:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-20 08:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 17:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 15:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-22 15:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 15:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-22 16:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-22 16:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 18:20 +0200
  Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-23 21:50 +0200
    Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 20:40 +0200
      Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 22:20 +0200
        Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-25 15:10 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:20 +0200

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