Re: customized Grub (was: Possibly erroneous "device not present...)

From	Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: customized Grub (was: Possibly erroneous "device not present...)
Date	2017-04-15 21:00 +0200
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Richard Owlett composed on 2017-04-15 11:35 (UTC-0500):
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> I also discovered there that placing a customized grub in its own
> partition is not only possible, but recommended in some situations. > I had read somewhere that that option had expired with grub-legacy. That,
> although taking much time to understand, will solve a *MESS* of grub
> problems for me ;/

If control is what you want on BIOS disks, limit the action of Grub scripts to / 
filesystems. Let them do whatever they want, but don't bother using them. 
Install generic MBR code, put Grub Legacy on an active primary partition, never 
mount it to /boot, and boot using Grub stanzas you build yourself. At least, 
that's how I've been doing it for over a decade on more than 25 multiboot 
machines with as many as 30+ distros each, including on a few systems that 
include Windows 98, XP, 7, 8 or 10. For this purpose, openSUSE's Grub Legacy, in 
conjunction with Gfxboot, works best. It facilitates editing on the fly at 
runtime, which makes it very easy to correct any typos made during manual 
editing of menu.lst. Trying to use Debian's Grub Legacy is a handicap in that 
its find command hangs on EXT4 filesystems, limiting utility of its shell.

Creating symlinks to current kernels and initrds leaves little editing to be 
required of the master bootloader's menu.lst.

https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/

When the point is reached that Grub Legacy cannot any more boot an installation 
I expect I'll try Syslinux or anything else that happens to provide promise as a 
bootloader before considering Grub2 for anything more than learning exercises.
-- 
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Thread

Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-12 13:20 +0200
  Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-12 14:50 +0200
    Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-12 17:20 +0200
      Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-12 19:20 +0200
        Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-12 20:40 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-12 21:10 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 13:50 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-13 17:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 19:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-13 20:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 01:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-14 19:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 18:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 20:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-15 20:20 +0200
                Re: customized Grub (was: Possibly erroneous "device not present...) Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-04-15 21:00 +0200
                Re: customized Grub (was: Possibly erroneous "device not present...) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:20 +0200
                Re: customized Grub Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 22:40 +0200
                Re: customized Grub Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-04-16 11:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 00:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 21:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-18 00:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 00:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 00:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-18 20:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-18 20:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-15 02:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 02:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 11:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 16:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 19:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 20:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 23:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 23:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-16 00:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 03:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-04-17 10:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-17 21:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-18 20:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-19 00:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 00:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-19 20:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-19 21:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-19 22:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 13:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-22 19:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 20:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 20:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-22 20:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 21:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 23:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Doug <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> - 2017-04-15 21:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 22:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 13:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-15 16:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 19:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 19:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 19:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-15 21:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 03:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-04-17 23:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-18 00:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 16:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 17:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 19:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 21:10 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-12 21:30 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 13:50 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-12 21:30 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 17:20 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-13 18:30 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-04-17 22:50 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-18 21:00 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-18 21:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-04-19 05:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot GiaThnYgeia <GiaThnYgeia@openmailbox.org> - 2017-04-19 09:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-19 20:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 00:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-22 15:50 +0200
        Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-12 21:00 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-13 18:00 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 20:00 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-14 20:50 +0200
      Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-14 19:50 +0200
        Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-14 20:40 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 12:50 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-04-15 16:10 +0200
            Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 19:00 +0200
              Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 19:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-15 20:10 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 21:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-15 23:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-16 00:30 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 04:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-20 08:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-20 17:20 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 15:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-22 15:40 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-22 15:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-04-22 16:00 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-04-22 16:50 +0200
                Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-27 18:20 +0200
  Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-23 21:50 +0200
    Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 20:40 +0200
      Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-04-24 22:20 +0200
        Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-04-25 15:10 +0200
          Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-04 19:20 +0200

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