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Re: having public irc logs?

From Gianfranco Costamagna <locutusofborg@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.vote
Subject Re: having public irc logs?
Date 2017-04-08 12:20 +0200
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Hello Chris!
>Apologies for the delay in getting back to you.


lol, apologies not accepted :p
The new queue is nearly empty, so thanks to all of you ftpmasters!

>Personally, I wouldn't say "most conversations" here, but I am
>trying to avoid this conversation becoming a debate on the minutiæ…


yeah, I might have written something like
"a lot of useful conversations" :)

>I would concede that that there are some advantages to having public
>IRC logging, but I don't see anywhere near enough advantage to warrant
>the Leader pushing it as a policy, as well as many disadvantages and,
>naturally, an extremely high switching cost.


this is a valid point, thanks

>This is despite me veing very much in favour of asking questions in
>public — which admittedly isn't exactly same as logging — even going
>so far as to write a blog post about it:
>
>  https://chris-lamb.co.uk/posts/dont-ask-your-questions-in-private
>


nice reading, thanks for sharing it!

>Did you have specific types of conversations in mind when you addressed>your question? Perhaps ensuring those become transparent in another way

>would assuage your concerns.

As said, a lot of times I have to read #-ftp #-buildd #-logs and maybe #-devel-changes
(or whatever is called).

e.g. bugs on #-devel-changes are useful to have a track of new bugs, new unblock requests
(during freeze times), or just to know which packages have interest in the community.

#-ftp is a nice place to know how dak is happy (and yeah, probably such logs are useful in
a context of some hours after somebody wrote that stuff)
same for #-buildd, to know chroot issues, or toolchain related sadness (e.g. all the recent
binutils failures on mips/powerpc)

#-release... well it is our main goal to release, so reading conversations there is a must for us :p

(also, I can know how fast I have to fix RC bugs, or see opinions by our RT team on various
topics).

thanks

Gianfranco

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having public irc logs? Gianfranco Costamagna <locutusofborg@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 10:50 +0200
  Re: having public irc logs? Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-04-06 12:00 +0200
  Re: having public irc logs? Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 18:10 +0200
    Re: having public irc logs? Gianfranco Costamagna <locutusofborg@debian.org> - 2017-04-07 10:00 +0200
      use matrix.org if you want logs (was: having public irc logs?) martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org> - 2017-04-07 10:10 +0200
      Re: having public irc logs? Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2017-04-07 13:30 +0200
        Re: having public irc logs? Gianfranco Costamagna <locutusofborg@debian.org> - 2017-04-07 16:40 +0200
          Re: having public irc logs? Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-04-08 10:00 +0200
          Re: having public irc logs? Mehdi Dogguy <mehdi@dogguy.org> - 2017-04-08 10:00 +0200
  Re: having public irc logs? Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 21:30 +0200
  Re: having public irc logs? Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2017-04-08 08:00 +0200
    Re: having public irc logs? Gianfranco Costamagna <locutusofborg@debian.org> - 2017-04-08 12:20 +0200
      Re: having public irc logs? Chris Lamb <lamby@debian.org> - 2017-04-09 10:50 +0200
  Re: having public irc logs? Mehdi Dogguy <mehdi@dogguy.org> - 2017-04-08 09:50 +0200
    Re: having public irc logs? Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2017-04-09 07:20 +0200

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