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Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux

From James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux
Date 2023-02-01 13:24 -0500
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On 2/1/23 11:36, Zorro wrote:
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> OK, initially C++ was called C with classes, around 1989 templates and exceptions were added.
> For many years C++ was compiled to C, and the C compiler would finish the job. Thus, C++ is a
> direct extension of C, even though now C++ compiler does the whole work. So now you only need
> to indicate "extern "C"" for linkage purposes.

The C standard specifies the requirements for a conforming extension to
C: "A conforming implementation may have extensions (including
additional library functions), provided they do not alter the behavior
of any strictly conforming program." (4p6)

That's a very strict requirement, and it has been a very long time since
any version of C++ even came close to qualifying as an extension to C.
See Annex C.5 and C.6 of the C++ standard for a 10 page list of ways in
which C++ gives code that is permitted in both languages a significantly
different meaning than it would have as C code.

The C++ standard has similar language in 4.1p8, except that it uses
"well-formed" rather than "strictly conforming". There are significant
conceptual differences between "strictly conforming", as that term is
defined by the C standard, and "well-formed" as it is defined by the C++
standard, but they serve similar purposes in the two standards, and are
both very strict requirements. I sincerely doubt, from what you've said,
that Z++ even comes close to qualifying.

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Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 15:09 -0800
  Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 15:12 -0800
    Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-24 15:14 -0800
      Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2023-01-24 16:41 -0800
        Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 11:07 -0800
          Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-31 19:27 +0000
      Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 11:00 -0800
      Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 14:22 -0800
        Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 14:29 -0800
          Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 15:25 -0800
            Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-02-01 00:30 +0000
              Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 09:28 -0800
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-02-01 18:05 +0000
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-02-02 07:09 -0800
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-02-02 16:11 +0000
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-02-02 13:39 -0800
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-02-02 17:42 -0800
            Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-31 16:32 -0800
              Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 08:36 -0800
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-02-01 17:10 +0000
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 10:07 -0800
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-02-01 13:24 -0500
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 10:57 -0800
            Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2023-02-01 08:52 +0200
              Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 08:01 -0800
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2023-02-01 19:23 +0200
                Re: Z++ for Windows and Linux Zorro <zorabih@gmail.com> - 2023-02-01 14:03 -0800

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