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Re: Thunderbird Broken Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set)

From David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++, news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject Re: Thunderbird Broken Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set)
Date 2023-01-29 12:04 +0100
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <tr5jrf$2npbg$4@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (17 earlier) <730105qr-2qrs-oo6q-30r7-p3o6r8p793p4@zvaqfcevat.pbz> <tqoluk$5cht$2@dont-email.me> <B1jyOFXZ9kwyO2oB1@bongo-ra.co> <tqpcje$8v5p$3@dont-email.me> <0001HW.2986256E023E4BBC306F0738F@news.giganews.com>

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On 29/01/2023 04:54, Pluted Pup wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 11:46:54 -0800, David Brown wrote:
> 
>> On 24/01/2023 18:47, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 14:20:19 +0100
>>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>  wrote:
>>>> It is quite clear that there has been a glitch on the
>>>> news.eternal-september.org server. Somehow, a message body from
>>>> rec.arts.books has been crosslinked, was delivered as though it matched
>>>> the normal-looking pre-downloaded header in the thread. (I'm guessing
>>>> Muttley actually made a post in the original thread, but I am unable to
>>>> see the real message body.) The glitch appears to be limited to
>>>> news.eternal-september.org - other users of that server have said they
>>>> saw it, while it did not appear on other servers. People have reported
>>>> the existence of the rambling essay post in rec.arts.books, made by Ilya
>>>> Shambat - it was a real post, but on news.eternal-september.org the
>>>> message body was accidentally attached to the wrong header summaries for
>>>> comp.lang.c++.
>>>>
>>>> Usenet server glitches are rare - client glitches are more likely. The
>>>> same glitch occurring for at least three different people is, however,
>>>> highly unlikely.
>>>
>>> It could be a Thunderbird issue. Note the following :
>>>
>>> All 3 of you use Thunderbird. Not precisely the same version but close. I assume
>>> you have tried to reproduce the steps which originally led you to see the defective
>>> post and you can no longer reproduce them.
>>
>> You are correct that we all use Thunderbird, and it is definitely
>> something I considered. More relevantly, however, we all use
>> news.eternal-september.org. And I have just tested using a clean
>> installation of pan as an alternative newsreader, and seen exactly the
>> same effect.
>>
>> I don't know why you think I can no longer reproduce the effect of the
>> broken post - I have made no such suggestion, precisely because I /can/
>> replicate it. I still see it on two different computers with
>> Thunderbird, and now also with Pan.
>>
>> For convenience, I have taken a screenshot of the effect. I have not
>> used this site "paste.pics" before, and I apologise if there are
>> unwanted adverts or other effects. If you are sceptical of clicking the
>> link, then I can happily email the screenshot. But it seems a quick and
>> easy way to make a link to the screenshot.
>>
>> <https://paste.pics/b4149f38abb4e210da0a71886714d014>
> 
> That screen makes no sense and I would guess it to be a
> Thunderbird problem. Thunderbird on mac has been broken
> for me for many months and have quit trying to make it work.
> A client problem, not a server problem.
> 

It's a screenshot from Pan, not Thunderbird.  (You realise this is 
Usenet, don't you?  It is not personal email - you are allowed to read 
replies I have made to other people.  Indeed, it's a good idea, and 
saves repetition.)

It makes no sense because it shows a /server/ problem - the /server/ 
returned nonsense for that post.

> So Thunderbird is broken or semi-broken depending on
> Mac (broken), Windows (semi-broken), or Linux (somewhat
> broken).
> 
> If Mozilla (Thunderbird) doesn't want to support newsgroups
> anymore, they should stop pretending to. This is me jumping
> to conclusions.
> 

I've found Thunderbird to work fine on Linux (I also use it on Windows, 
but not for Usenet).  It's not perfect, but I've found few programs that 
/are/ perfect.  And it shows the same glitch here as Pan does, because 
it is a /server/ glitch, not a client issue.

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Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 15:42 +0100
  Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-19 16:18 +0100
    Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-19 16:32 +0000
      Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-19 19:22 +0100
        Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 20:00 +0000
        Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-20 15:48 +0000
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            Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2023-01-25 23:55 -0500
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        Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 20:10 +0000
          Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 20:17 +0000
            Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-20 15:49 +0000
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                Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-21 15:50 +0000
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                Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-21 13:06 +0100
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                Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-23 09:34 +0000
                Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-23 14:29 +0100
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                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2023-01-23 13:03 -0600
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                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 22:00 +0000
                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-24 14:20 +0100
                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-24 15:36 +0000
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                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-24 18:50 +0000
                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-24 20:36 +0100
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                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2023-01-28 20:20 -0800
                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-29 12:00 +0100
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                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com> - 2023-01-29 16:23 -0800
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                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) Spiros Bousbouras <spibou@gmail.com> - 2023-01-25 22:58 +0000
                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-26 13:10 +0100
                Thunderbird Broken Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2023-01-28 19:54 -0800
                Re: Thunderbird Broken Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-29 12:04 +0100
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                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2023-01-24 20:25 -0600
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                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2023-01-28 19:28 -0800
                Re: Server glitch vs other possibilities (Was : Compute Unique Numbers in a Set) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-29 12:36 +0100
                Pluted Pup is trolling you, you blithering idiot (was: Server glitch vs other possibilities) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2023-01-29 17:23 +0000
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      Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> - 2023-01-19 17:08 +0000
        Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-19 17:15 +0000
    Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-01-19 16:54 +0000
    Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2023-01-21 13:03 -0800
      Re: Compute Unique Numbers in a Set Pluted Pup <plutedpup@outlook.com> - 2023-01-21 14:01 -0800
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