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Re: About Flibble

From Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: About Flibble
Date 2023-01-18 09:27 +0000
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 12:36:06 -0800
"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 1/17/2023 1:34 AM, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:51:56 -0800
>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/16/2023 3:31 AM, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 11:32:34 +0100
>>>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>>>>> When using gcc and a debugger, it is quite normal for single-stepping to
>>>>> jump around the code, for things to happen long before or long after you
>>>>> might think from the "current" source line, for variables to be
>>>>> "optimised out", etc.  Debugging optimised code is something of an art.
>>>>
>>>> And debugging optimised multithreaded code will end up with you gibbering
>in
>>>> a corner shouting "Deadlock!" or "Race!" at any nearby pigeons.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> MSVC's debugger was always pretty damn good. I have used it to debug
>>> nightmare multi-threaded code created by somebody else, where I had to
>>> pause threads at a specific line, in order to reproduce a certain bug
>> 
>> Thats fine if you know where the line is but usually with threading issues
>> (and to be fair non threaded code too) a bug/crash occurs due to an earlier
>> bug or design error which in itself goes unnoticed.
>> 
>
>Touche. Well, if there is a bug in my OpenGL code, I have not found it 
>yet. Humm... So far, everything works and renders perfectly. My 

The sort of bugs we're discussing here arn't the obvious "Oh, that result isn't
correct" type. They're the "Oh, why has is suddenly hung/crashed when its run
fine for 2 months" type.

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About Flibble Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2023-01-02 01:22 +0000
  Re: About Flibble "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 18:39 +0100
    Re: About Flibble Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2023-01-02 18:08 +0000
  Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 21:41 -0800
    Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 21:43 -0800
      Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-02 21:44 -0800
  Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-04 00:59 -0800
  Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-11 23:13 -0800
    Re: About Flibble Stuart Redmann <DerTopper@web.de> - 2023-01-13 07:19 +0100
      Re: About Flibble Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-13 10:15 +0000
      Re: About Flibble Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2023-01-13 14:29 +0000
      Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-13 13:43 -0800
        Re: About Flibble Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-14 09:52 +0000
          Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 14:44 -0800
            Re: About Flibble David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-16 11:37 +0100
              Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 11:45 -0800
                Re: About Flibble Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2023-01-16 20:49 +0000
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 00:02 -0800
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 00:04 -0800
              Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 11:52 -0800
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 11:57 -0800
        Re: About Flibble David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-16 11:32 +0100
          Re: About Flibble Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-16 11:31 +0000
            Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 11:51 -0800
              Re: About Flibble Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-17 09:34 +0000
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-17 12:36 -0800
                Re: About Flibble Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-18 09:27 +0000
                Re: About Flibble Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2023-01-18 16:22 +0100
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 11:56 -0800
                Re: About Flibble scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-18 20:00 +0000
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 12:11 -0800
                Re: About Flibble David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-18 21:17 +0100
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 12:35 -0800
                Re: About Flibble David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-19 08:55 +0100
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 20:11 -0800
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-23 20:12 -0800
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 12:37 -0800
                Re: About Flibble Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-01-18 15:30 -0800
                Re: About Flibble David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-19 08:55 +0100
                Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-19 12:16 -0800
                Re: About Flibble Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2023-01-19 09:33 +0000
                Re: About Flibble David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-01-19 15:28 +0100
                Re: About Flibble scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-01-19 14:57 +0000
          Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-16 11:46 -0800
      Re: About Flibble Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2023-01-14 19:24 +0000
    Re: About Flibble Mr Flibble <flibble@reddwarf.jmc.corp> - 2023-01-14 19:24 +0000
      Re: About Flibble "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-01-14 13:13 -0800

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