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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.microsoft.windows |
| Subject | Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it - why can't Microsoft do it too? |
| Date | 2022-08-14 11:47 -0400 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <tdb5dm$11ms$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 8/14/2022 11:28 AM, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>
>> There are all sorts of things you can do to interfere
>> with the installation.
>
> Paul,
> I (assert) that I own adult cognitive skills, as do you, and as does Rick.
>
> As such, I don't mind in the least being wrong on facts (if I am wrong), because the ONLY thing I care about are the facts being right in the end.
>
> Hence I must ask YOU this extremely focused and pointed Win11 question:
> Q: *Was I wrong to assume Windows 11 _required_ a MS mothership account?*
>
> Note: I clearly _understood_ Rick saying it does not; but he didn't clarify (yet) how he managed to do that, nor if he's using an enterprise edition.
>
> Does Windows 11 Home _require_ a mothership account for full functionality?
> Or not?
I'm sure you will find some recipe. Even the latest Rufus appears to be
armed with some editing function for it. There is at least one more method,
not listed there.
https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-microsoft-account
I would agree, that the MSA could be a requirement, if every copy of
Windows 11 Home used encryption. But that does not seem to be the case.
There is no need to store the recovery key in the MSA account on
the Microsoft server. Nothing else on Home, is a particular excuse
for an account. The encryption recovery key is the only thing
I've heard of which is even remotely an excuse for an MSA.
For any service you attempt to set up, which requires an account,
you will receive the Microsoft login window as a "hint" an MSA is required.
In some cases (yet again), the login window is bogus, and there may be
ways to bypass it and carry out the function desired. I've had at least
one case here, where batting the login window out of the way, allowed
continuing on in spite of it being presented. Just because there is a
login window, does not mean it is always set up to block forward progress.
In some cases, it's merely a side effect of some software you are
using, "attempting to sniff the MSA" and triggering the login.
Paul
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