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Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile?

From Ansgar Burchardt <"Ansgar Burchardt"@43-1.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile?
Date 2017-06-20 01:40 +0200
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Greg Wooledge writes:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 06:00:58PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
>> Le primidi 1er messidor, an CCXXV, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit :
>> > That said, no, it is not usually considered a security vulnerability,
>> > because NOT using the full path to run commands such as "su" and "sudo"
>> > in the first place IS considered gross negligence.
>> 
>> If your account has been compromised so much that an attacker was able
>> to add something in ~/bin/, then using the full path of the commands
>> does not bring any extra security.
>
> Henrique, I believe, was describing an attack that works like this:
>
> 1) Login.
> 2) PATH=~/bin:$PATH
> 3) vi ~/bin/su  (insert malicious code); chmod 755 ~/bin/su
> 4) Call the system administrator, and get him/her to come to your desk.
> 5) Get the sysadmin to run "su -c something" for you at your desk.
>    This runs your password-capturing program, which records the root
>    password somewhere you can retrieve it after the sysadmin leaves.

Typing /bin/su instead doesn't help against this attack, for example zsh
allows:

  $ alias /bin/su="echo Hallo"
  $ /bin/su
  Hallo

Or one could just present something that looks and behaves like the
normal shell except when /bin/su is called.  Or use the DEBUG trap in
bash.  Or...

In short, it is never safe to run `su` and enter a password from an
untrusted account.  And one should regard all accounts one uses `su`
from as equivalent to root (for misuse; the password just helps
against breaking some things by accident).

Ansgar

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where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? David Bunch <depb@posteo.net> - 2017-06-18 07:20 +0200
  Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-18 11:10 +0200
    Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-06-18 14:00 +0200
  Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-06-18 14:00 +0200
    Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-18 19:10 +0200
  Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-19 14:40 +0200
    Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-06-19 18:00 +0200
      Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-19 18:10 +0200
        Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-19 19:20 +0200
        Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? Ansgar Burchardt <"Ansgar Burchardt"@43-1.org> - 2017-06-20 01:40 +0200
      Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-06-19 18:10 +0200
      Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2017-06-19 18:40 +0200
        Re: where to submit low security vulnerability in .profile? Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-06-19 20:30 +0200

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