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Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage

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On 06/14/2017 12:56 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 14 Jun 2017 at 08:50:18 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 06/13/2017 01:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:
>>> On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 12:51:10 -0500
>>> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Richard,
>>>
>>>> netinst iso. I had never experimented with just how much could
>>>> be done with netinst without any internet connectivity.
>>>
>>> Probably not a lot.  See; https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/  Internet
>>> connectivity is expected to exist.
>
> Well, it sort of depends where you draw the line between internet
> and Internet connectivity. Fifteen years ago I played about with
> a private partial mirror where the source of the debs was via
> commuternet, ie Zip/Jaz disks transported from my Janet-connected
> office. The "internet" was a cat5 cable.
>
>> I'm wishing I had discovered the netinst iso years ago.
>> *NOTE BENE* Up until about a year ago I had only dial-up. The only
>> practical installation path that met my needs was purchasing
>> complete DVD sets. I spent many hours trying to coerce Debian into
>> doing a minimalist install.
>
> What parameter are you actually minimising?

For the purpose of this thread, the downloaded byte count. Period.

However understanding netinst will influence how I approach doing a 
"minimal" install. [I use quotation marks to emphasize that "minimal" 
can mean very different things to different people.]

>
>> If I had succeeded, I suspect the result
>> would have been close to netinst WITHOUT internet connectivity. But
>> I've learned a lot.
>
> Does it make any difference to the resulting package list whether you
> install using netinst or a stack of DVDs?

I doubt it. If there were significant differences it would indicate a 
problem.

> I had assumed that you could
> deselect all the options in the "Software selection" screen whichever
> way you installed, and end up with the same thing, a system with
> ~248 packages installed.

Are all 248 packages "necessary"? [Note usage of quotation marks ;]

A mechanics question, "How to count the number of installed packages?"
I'd like to be able to reproducibly count installed packages.

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Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-13 16:30 +0200
  Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2017-06-13 16:50 +0200
    Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-13 18:40 +0200
      Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-13 19:30 +0200
        Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-13 20:00 +0200
          Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith  useage Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2017-06-13 20:20 +0200
            Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-14 16:00 +0200
              Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-14 20:00 +0200
                Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-15 13:30 +0200
                Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-15 16:10 +0200
                Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-15 16:20 +0200
                Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-15 17:40 +0200
          Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-13 20:30 +0200
            Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-06-13 20:40 +0200
              Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-13 20:50 +0200
              Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-13 21:10 +0200
              Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-06-14 01:00 +0200
  Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-13 18:50 +0200
    Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-13 19:30 +0200
      Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-13 23:20 +0200
        Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-15 20:40 +0200
          Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-16 17:20 +0200
            Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-16 19:50 +0200
  Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2017-06-13 23:40 +0200
  Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-06-15 19:10 +0200
    Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-15 19:40 +0200
  Status Re: Installing Stretch/Testing with absolute minimal bandwith  useage Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-20 16:20 +0200

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