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Re: Debian installation issues

From Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Debian installation issues
Date 2017-06-11 16:50 +0200
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On 06/11/2017 08:34 AM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> On 10 June 2017 at 14:05, Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> wrote:
>
>> On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>>
>>> On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and
>>>> in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10.
>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-
>>>> alongside-a-pre-
>>>> installed-windows-with-uefi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ​I read through some of this.  If I understood it correctly, if you buy a
>>> machine that comes with e.g. Windows 10 installed for you then this secure
>>> boot feature would make it difficult to boot and install certain Linux
>>> distributions - but some versions of Ubuntu might be OK apparently.
>>>
>>> But if you would buy such a machine, do you not also get the Windows key
>>> codes for the OS.......?????
>>>
>>> If you do, then could you not just back up the work files on the
>>> installation and then uninstall Windows and reinstall it with the
>>> secure boot feature turned off and then install the Linux distro
>>> of your choice?
>>>
>>> When I get a new PC I specifically request that it has no operating
>>> system on it and then install everything from scratch.
>>>
>>
>> I follow a variation on that that suits my personal/idiosyncratic
>> preferences for buying used/reconditioned hardware (no need for cutting
>> edge) and buying locally rather than online (fewer communication snafus).
>>
>> I go into the store with a live DVD or flash drive. I began doing this to
>> see if a standard install of Debian had appropriate drivers. I found a
>> secondary advantage in discovering how straight forward it was to boot from
>> something other than the default hard disk. A couple months ago I had
>> occasion to go one step further and while and do a full install while in
>> the store (odd permutation of hardware and software).
>> YMMV
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have not encountered this problem as yet.
>>>
>>
>> I'm not clear to what "this problem" refers.
>>
>
> ​As I understand it, it is possible to purchase a PC or laptop which has
> Windows 10 preinstalled on the hard drive.
>
> Apparently the default installation in a UEFI capable machine includes
> something called the "secure boot" facility.  This new feature makes
> installing Linux distros difficult in some cases.
> We have been trying to help the OP with this problem.
>

Thank you. I hadn't been sure if you were referring to his overall 
problem or a specific aspect.

 From a Ubuntu related reference someone gave, "secure boot" is a known 
problem for his hardware.

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  Re: Debian installation issues Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> - 2017-06-08 09:50 +0200
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                Re: Debian installation issues Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-10 10:10 +0200
                Re: Debian installation issues Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-06-10 10:20 +0200
                Re: Debian installation issues Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-10 10:50 +0200
                Re: Debian installation issues "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-06-10 11:20 +0200
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                Re: Debian installation issues Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-06-09 22:10 +0200
                Re: Debian installation issues Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 23:00 +0200
                Re: Debian installation issues Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-10 15:10 +0200
                Re: Debian installation issues Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 16:00 +0200
                Re: Debian installation issues Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-11 16:50 +0200
              Re: Debian installation issues Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 21:10 +0200
            Re: Debian installation issues Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@gmail.com> - 2017-06-09 16:00 +0200
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