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Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

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On 06/10/2017 11:29 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 10 Jun 2017 at 16:50:19 (+0100), Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> writes:
>>> On 06/10/2017 08:41 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>>>> Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> writes:
>>>>> Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Some months ago I tried many times to install Debian on my Debian
>>>>>>> Acer One ...
>>>>> Did you try all combinations of the following ?
>>>>> - BIOS/legacy boot mode or EFI boot mode
>>>>> - text-mode install or GUI install
>>>>> - 32-bit install or 64-bit install
>
> I can't remember whether you said that you had tried an
> entirely i386 install (ie using an i386 ISO).
>
>>>> Then I try to reboot with power button but the machine remains
>>>> for many hours in that state...  Then after many hours it turns off...
>>>
>>> I am NOT familiar with any Acer product. However, there is a useful feature
>>> in my assortment of Lenovo laptops and one desktop. It might be described as
>>> a "panic stop". It is triggered by pressing and holding the power button. It
>>> is *BRUTE* force and regularly causes Debian to run a disk diagnostic on the
>>> next boot. You might check Acer documentation or user group for a similar
>>> function.
>>
>>
>> Thanks...  but, as I described, Debian doesn't even manage to start up on that
>> machine...  and that's my problem...  I don't use Windows and so the machine is
>> there permanently unused, waiting and hoping for next Debian releases to work
>> in the next - not too far - future...
>
> It's many years since I had a laptop fail to stop when you
> hold down the power button firmly for, say, 15 seconds.
>
> The next step, of course, is to remove the battery pack, which
> may or may not be straightforward.
>
> I couldn't understand "regularly causes Debian to run a disk
> diagnostic on the next boot" in this context. If partitions
> haven't been mounted, there's no reason for them to get marked
> as dirty.

We have the same experience. My post was intended specifically to 
address his comment of "Then after many hours it turns off..."

I have one laptop set aside for experimenting with things which could in 
and of themselves destroy data. That machine currently has a valuable 
test setup on it so I can't report just what routine gets run on the reboot.

~1 hr after my first post I also suggested trying a Live ISO.

>
> OTOH what can happen is for a longer POST than normal to run.
> Dells have a habit of doing this if you power off during a POST
> or edit the CMOS.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 13:00 +0200
  Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 humbert.olivier.1@free.fr - 2017-06-06 13:40 +0200
  Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-06-06 14:20 +0200
  Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-06-06 17:50 +0200
    Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2017-06-06 18:00 +0200
      Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-06 20:00 +0200
        Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-06-06 21:30 +0200
          Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-07 10:40 +0200
            Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-06-07 11:10 +0200
            Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-06-07 20:20 +0200
              Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 15:50 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-10 16:40 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-10 17:50 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 18:00 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-06-10 18:30 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-10 19:30 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-10 19:30 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-06-10 19:20 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 17:00 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-06-11 17:20 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 19:00 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 19:10 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2017-06-10 20:20 +0200
                Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet (was: Choose between amd64 and i386) Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 10:40 +0200
                Re: Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet (was:  Choose between amd64 and i386) Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 10:50 +0200
                Re: Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-06-11 11:40 +0200
                Re: Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 10:50 +0200
                Re: Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-06-11 11:10 +0200
                Re: Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-11 13:00 +0200
                Re: Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-06-11 14:00 +0200
                Re: Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-06-11 14:20 +0200
                Re: Trying to install Debian on Acer One 10 laptop-tablet Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> - 2017-06-14 08:40 +0200
                Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-06-10 21:30 +0200
      Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Michael Lange <klappnase@freenet.de> - 2017-06-07 11:10 +0200
  Re: Choose between amd64 and i386 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-06-06 21:40 +0200

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