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Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default?

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On 2017-05-27 11:39, Nicolas George wrote:
> L'octidi 8 prairial, an CCXXV, gwmfms6@openmailbox.org a écrit :
>> A lot of Europe does it, and it is wrong! It goes back quite a while 
>> to when
>> it was fashionable to use a dot (.) as a symbol for multiplication. So
>> Europe stopped using a dot to signal a decimal point to avoid 
>> confusion
>> (they should have stopped stopped using a dot as a symbol for
>> multiplication). In the U.S. and G.B. an X was used for multiplication
>> symbol so they continued on using a dot for decimal (as it should be).
> 
> What glyph is used as a separator does not really matter. What really
> matter is that it is convenient and everybody uses the same. We could
> have settled for a heart-shaped symbol, it would have worked.
> 
> In this matter, considerations such as "preserving local cultures" are
> irrelevant. It is a matter of communication, an even of (slightly)
> technical communication. Convenience and unambiguity are paramount.
> Hence the "everybody uses the same" condition.
> 
> Convenience sets a few rules. The most important of these is: the
> decimal separator, which has a semantic role, must be much more visible
> than the thousand separator, which has only an aesthetic role. Thus, 
> dot
> for decimal and comma for thousand is stupid.
> 
> I suggest to apply the following rules, whenever you are free to chose
> your rules:
> 
> - Be liberal in what you accept: understand both dots and commas, do 
> not
>   start a pedantic rant if you get a text with the "wrong" one.
> 
> - In "casual" computerized text, especially monospace, use dot for
>   decimal and no thousand separator.
> 
> - In typeset text, use dot for decimal and a thin space for thousands
>   (possibly: only if the range of the numbers exceeds 9999, i.e. no
>   thousand separator for years for example).
> 
> - In hand-written text, the visibility of the dot is not reliable
>   enough, use a comma for decimal. And a small space for thousand.
> 
> Regards,

Okay, I didn't mean to start something. I was attempting some humor in 
my previous emails about LC_NUMERIC, please read them in that context. 
Obviously Denmark's numerics, currency, and paper size creates problems 
when residing in the USA so I can't just switch to that to solve the 
LC_TIME problem.

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How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-26 17:40 +0200
  Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-26 17:50 +0200
    Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-26 18:10 +0200
      Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-26 18:40 +0200
        Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-26 18:50 +0200
          Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-26 19:00 +0200
            Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-26 19:10 +0200
              Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-05-27 12:20 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-27 14:40 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-05-27 16:30 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-27 17:20 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-05-27 17:40 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-05-27 20:10 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2017-05-27 22:00 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Frank <zuiderduin@gmx.com> - 2017-05-27 17:00 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-27 17:30 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2017-05-27 17:50 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2017-05-27 17:50 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-27 18:10 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-28 03:50 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-30 14:50 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-30 18:30 +0200
                RE: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? "Emanuele Bernardi" <e.berna@posteo.net> - 2017-05-30 18:50 +0200
                RE: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-31 16:10 +0200
          Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-26 19:00 +0200
            Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2017-05-26 19:10 +0200
              Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? gwmfms6@openmailbox.org - 2017-05-26 19:10 +0200
                Re: How to set ISO date/time with en_US.utf8 as system default? James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> - 2017-05-27 20:50 +0200

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