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Re: [RFC 04/11] ima: add support to namespace securityfs file

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Hi John,

On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 00:36 -0700, John Johansen wrote:
> On 05/24/2017 01:12 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > On Thu, 2017-05-11 at 10:59 -0300, Guilherme Magalhaes wrote:
> >> Creating the namespace securityfs file under ima folder. When a mount
> >> namespace id is written to the namespace file, a new folder is created and
> >> with a policy file for that specified namespace. Then, user defined policy
> >> for namespaces may be set by writing rules to this namespace policy file.
> >> With this interface, there is no need to give visibility for the securityfs
> >> inside mount namespaces or containers in userspace.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Guilherme Magalhaes <guilherme.magalhaes@hpe.com>
> > 
> > The design needs to be flexible enough for different types of
> > containers, not just for when the orchestration layer provides the
> > policy.  With this design, the container owner has no control over the
> > policy.
> > 
> > One option is that we bind mount the securityfs/policy, so that root
> > in the container will be allowed to read/write the policy.  At some
> > point, we might connect a vTPM to the container so that the container
> > owner would be able to get a quote.  For now even without a vTPM, the
> > same mechanism would allow root within the container to read the
> > measurement list.
> > 
> I haven't looked at this enough yet on IMAs end, but another possible solution
> is using a symlink and a magic jump_link similar to what nsfs is doing.
> 
> The patch series I posted out a couple of weeks ago
>   [RFC][Patch 0/3] securityfs: add the ability to support symlinks
> 
> adds symlink support to securityfs, and then patch 3/3 cribs from nsfs
> updating apparmorfs to use jump_link to "virtualize" the apparmor policy
> directory. This avoids needing to have the bind mount.
> 
> I'll break the patch out more and repost so its easier to see if this
> approach might work for IMA.

Sorry, I've been meaning to take a look at your patches, but just
haven't gotten to it yet.  This approach sounds really promising.

thanks,

Mimi

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Re: [RFC 04/11] ima: add support to namespace securityfs file Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2017-05-24 22:20 +0200
  Re: [RFC 04/11] ima: add support to namespace securityfs file John Johansen <john.johansen@canonical.com> - 2017-05-25 09:40 +0200
    Re: [RFC 04/11] ima: add support to namespace securityfs file Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2017-05-25 13:50 +0200
      RE: [RFC 04/11] ima: add support to namespace securityfs file "Magalhaes, Guilherme (Brazil R&D-CL)" <guilherme.magalhaes@hpe.com> - 2017-05-25 21:10 +0200
        Re: [RFC 04/11] ima: add support to namespace securityfs file Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> - 2017-05-29 19:40 +0200
          Re: [RFC 04/11] ima: add support to namespace securityfs file "Dr. Greg Wettstein" <greg@enjellic.com> - 2017-05-31 12:20 +0200

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