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Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch

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On Sun 21 May 2017 at 16:31:55 (+0200), Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 21-05-17, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I had done:
> >   apt-get update
> >   apt-get upgrade
> > The tail end of the output was:
> > ...
> > Setting up libkde3support4 (4:4.14.26-2) ...
> > Setting up libktexteditor4 (4:4.14.26-2) ...
> > Setting up libkdewebkit5 (4:4.14.26-2) ...
> > Setting up libkhtml5 (4:4.14.26-2) ...
> > Setting up libplasma3 (4:4.14.26-2) ...
> > Setting up kdelibs5-plugins (4:4.14.26-2) ...
> > Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.130) ...
> > update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-2-686-pae
> > I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda5
> > I: (UUID=5d0c821b-26b2-4d38-b7fe-dc7db1b72576)
> > I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
> > Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.24-10) ...
> > root@stretch-2nd:/home/richard#
> > 
> > Before asking for confirmation to do the "upgrade" it said 3 packages would
> > not be upgraded.
> > If it said which packages, I didn't spot it.
> > I then reran with following result.
> > 
> > root@stretch-2nd:/home/richard# apt-get upgrade
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > Calculating upgrade... Done
> > The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
> > required:
> >   dconf-cli gir1.2-notify-0.7 libconfig9 libgtkspell3-3-0 libindicator3-7
> > mate-indicator-applet
> >   mate-indicator-applet-common python3-psutil python3-setproctitle
> > Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
> > The following packages have been kept back:
> >   linux-image-686-pae xorg xserver-xorg
> > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
> > root@stretch-2nd:/home/richard#
> > 
> > My questions:
> > 
> > 1. In the first run, I don't understand:
> >      Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.130) ...
> >      update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-2-686-pae
> >      I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda5
> >      I: (UUID=5d0c821b-26b2-4d38-b7fe-dc7db1b72576)
> >      I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
> >  As /dev/sda5 is my SWAP.
> > 
> > 2. I don't understand any implications of:
> >      The following packages have been kept back:
> >        linux-image-686-pae xorg xserver-xorg
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> As for number 1 can't say much about it, I do not get it either. But 2
> happens because you've used apt-get upgrade instead of apt-get
> dist-upgrade. Packages that will uninstall some packages already
> installed on your system and that will change some dependencies 
> require dist-upgrade.

Agreed.

> It happens always in case of linux-image packages. 

Is this¹ new with stretch? My linux-images upgrade just like any other
package; here's the penultimate occasion for jessie:

Start-Date: 2017-03-08  19:20:34
Commandline: apt-get upgrade
Upgrade: linux-source-3.16:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), linux-headers-3.16.0-4-586:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), linux-image-3.16.0-4-586:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), linux-libc-dev:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), linux-compiler-gcc-4.8-x86:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2), linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common:i386 (3.16.39-1+deb8u1, 3.16.39-1+deb8u2)
End-Date: 2017-03-08  19:22:50

(The last one's log was rather larger.)

> It will leave your previous working linux-image on though, but will 
> uninstall one older than that, so you will always end up with chance to 
> boot in working kernel, if new one messes up some things.

Same question. My wheezy system has had at least 28 linux-image
upgrades (3.2.57-3+deb7u2→3.2.60-1+deb7u1 to 3.2.86-1→3.2.88-1)
but there's still only one kernel image on the system:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  134839 Apr 27 16:52 config-3.2.0-4-686-pae
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root   12288 Apr 28 07:44 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2672854 Apr 28 07:44 initrd.img-3.2.0-4-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1674268 Apr 27 16:52 System.map-3.2.0-4-686-pae
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2709184 Apr 27 16:51 vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae

(I have to notice these upgrades myself because they overwrite
my edited version of /boot/grub/grub.cfg which I then replace.)

Cheers,
David.

¹ I'm not disagreeing that something is holding back the upgrade
on this specific occasion, but this is unusual.

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Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-21 15:40 +0200
  Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-21 16:30 +0200
    Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-21 16:40 +0200
      Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2017-05-21 17:00 +0200
      Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Larry Dighera <LDighera@att.net> - 2017-05-22 15:10 +0200
  Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 16:40 +0200
    Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-21 22:00 +0200
      Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 22:20 +0200
        Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-22 00:10 +0200
          Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 11:20 +0200
            Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-22 12:00 +0200
            Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-26 22:10 +0200
              Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-26 22:40 +0200
                Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Fungi4All <fungilife@protonmail.com> - 2017-05-27 00:40 +0200
                Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 11:30 +0200
                Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-27 16:20 +0200
        Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2017-05-22 00:20 +0200
    Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2017-05-22 12:40 +0200
      Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-22 13:20 +0200
      Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2017-05-22 13:50 +0200
  Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2017-05-21 16:50 +0200
  Re: Questions after doing update and upgrade on Stretch Dejan Jocic <jodejka@gmail.com> - 2017-05-21 17:10 +0200

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