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Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

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On 05/17/2017 12:42 PM, craigswin wrote:
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> On 05/17/2017 06:03 AM, RavenLX wrote:
>> Those Windows VMs though are a pain. Just warning you. If you don't 
>> absolutely NEED one, I'd advise not even bothering. I'm seriously 
>> considering just deleting mine. 
> 
> Can you expand on that?  New to VMs, considering them as an alternative 
> to dualboot, with Stretch as host and Win7 as a guest to run Vectorworks.

I am not a fan of windows, no how, no way. So I admit I may be (a little 
more than) a tad biased.

But booting into a Windows VM is hard. You can't back up/export without 
losing your license and having to call MS (which is why I don't even 
bother) to have them 'fix' it. And updates take forever. My laptop is 
kinda old so it also bogs down the machine sometimes. In addition, the 
internet part doesn't always work. Sometimes it stalls and you have to 
reboot the windows VM to get it working again (maybe something not set 
right, who knows).

My normal workflow includes doing updates on the base VM (which take a 
long time), then doing a disk cleanup, then sdelete to zero out the 
unused areas. Next I would clone (at the command line) the VM disk file 
so that it is fully compressed. Then I export. Not doing this to 
compress it as much as possible results in a huge exported backup file.

I rather back up the exported machine, and then clone it if I need to 
use a Windows VM. This saves "messing up" windows and having to take 
half a day or more to reinstall everything, including programs, etc. and 
updates, etc. etc.

Windows 10, at least, is very slow with updates on a virtual machine.

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Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-05-14 14:00 +0200
  Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions "Thomas Schmitt" <scdbackup@gmx.net> - 2017-05-14 16:30 +0200
    Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-05-14 23:30 +0200
  Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Patrick Bartek <nemommxiv@gmail.com> - 2017-05-14 17:20 +0200
  Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@transient.nz> - 2017-05-14 23:50 +0200
  Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Kent West <westk@acu.edu> - 2017-05-15 07:20 +0200
  Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 15:10 +0200
    Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-05-17 16:30 +0200
    Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions craigswin <craigswin2016@gmail.com> - 2017-05-17 18:50 +0200
      Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-17 19:10 +0200
        Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 15:40 +0200
          Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-05-18 18:50 +0200
          Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 23:20 +0200
            Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 07:20 +0200
              Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 13:00 +0200
                Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-05-20 15:20 +0200
              Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-05-20 15:20 +0200
          Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions RavenLX <ravenlx@sitesplace.net> - 2017-05-21 14:50 +0200
            Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-05-21 18:20 +0200
              Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-05-21 19:10 +0200
                Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2017-05-21 22:30 +0200
                Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2017-05-21 23:20 +0200
      Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-18 23:10 +0200
        Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions Mark Fletcher <mark27q1@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 07:20 +0200
          Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2017-05-20 13:10 +0200

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