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| From | Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.project |
| Subject | Re: If Debian support OS certification? |
| Date | 2017-05-17 15:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <tI7lf-3Em-7@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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Paul Wise writes ("Re: If Debian support OS certification?"):
> For Debian I expect your proposal "do not require loading externally
> supplied non-free firmware" is something that most of Debian can agree
> is a reasonable endorsement target for now.
Yes.
I think this is rather unfortunate for all the reasons you set out in
your mail, but I can't see a politically workable alternative bright
line.
> > Otherwise, we'll have to display different types of logo, like "works
> > with Debian ... but", and then that starts to confuse users, which is
> > counter-productive.
>
> I think for hardware that doesn't support whatever criteria we come up
> with, we just wouldn't have a certification logo but would say "this
> hardware is *not* Debian certified because ..., but can run Debian if
> ...". For "certified" hardware we would include the logo and say "this
> hardware is Debian certified, but you need to be aware of these
> proprietary components and what their capabilities are".
I think this is a very good idea.
A trustworthy certification report that said "this machine would have
passed the certification, except that the wifi card requires a
separately supplied firmware blob from Debian non-free" would be
extremely useful to many users and potential purchasers.
I wonder if we could have a certification level (and associated name,
logo, etc.) that specifically permits exactly this kind of deviation.
Ian.
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