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Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

From Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests
Date 2017-05-10 21:50 +0200
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"Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> writes:
> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 11:51:23PM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote:

>> I think it's a horrible idea.  One of the major draws of Debian is that
>> we are all here for our own reasons.  I don't judge your motivations
>> and you don't judge nine.

> It's voluntary, so you decide what you want to share.  If you don't want to
> share anything, that's fine.

How is this meaningful if it's strictly voluntary and no conclusions
should ever be drawn from it?

I'm personally reasonably comfortable with declaring conflicts, but then
mine are pretty simple and pose no complex ethical concerns.  I understand
Scott's concern: I see no way in which this would stay strictly voluntary
and meaningless if it were widely used.  One can say anything one likes on
the page about not drawing conclusions from the data, but if no one is
supposed to draw any conclusions, why are we collecting the data?

In practice, if lots of people fill this out, people *will* draw
conclusions about people who are missing, will exert social pressure for
people to fill this out in various situations, and will draw conclusions
from the data that's disclosed.  This is just human nature, and is only
logical.

If we don't want that to happen, we shouldn't collect the data in the
first place.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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Debian contributor Register of Interests Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-05-09 11:00 +0200
  Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-05-09 14:10 +0200
    Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Luca Filipozzi <lfilipoz@debian.org> - 2017-05-09 17:10 +0200
    Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-05-10 02:10 +0200
      Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> - 2017-05-10 09:50 +0200
        Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-05-10 18:00 +0200
          Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> - 2017-05-10 18:50 +0200
          Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-05-10 21:30 +0200
            Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-05-11 02:40 +0200
      Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests "Dr. Bas Wijnen" <wijnen@debian.org> - 2017-05-10 12:50 +0200
        Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-05-10 21:50 +0200
          Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2017-05-11 19:10 +0200
            Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-05-11 21:40 +0200
              Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2017-05-11 22:20 +0200
                Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2017-05-12 01:20 +0200
                Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-05-12 12:10 +0200
              Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Nikolaus Rath <Nikolaus@rath.org> - 2017-05-13 02:00 +0200
    Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-05-10 17:30 +0200
      Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-05-11 14:10 +0200
        Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2017-05-11 14:50 +0200
  Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2017-05-12 10:50 +0200
    Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-05-12 15:20 +0200
    Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-05-14 08:10 +0200
      Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-05-14 10:40 +0200
      Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2017-05-15 09:00 +0200
      Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-05-15 19:20 +0200
        Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2017-05-15 22:00 +0200
          Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 14:00 +0200
  Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-05-16 05:10 +0200
    Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-05-16 14:10 +0200

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