Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem

From	Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com>
Newsgroups	comp.theory
Subject	Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem
Date	2022-06-25 11:25 -0600
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On 6/25/2022 8:22 AM, B.H. wrote:
> On Saturday, June 25, 2022 at 1:07:00 AM UTC-4, Jeff Barnett wrote:
>> On 6/24/2022 3:04 PM, B.H. wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 4:38:27 PM UTC-4, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>> "B.H." <xlt...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Let's see if Ben Bacarisse will admit he doesn't understand the proof
>>>>> of the problem, assuming that he indeed does not understand it, since
>>>>> he's not a mathematician.
>>>> What is a mathematician? I may very well not be a mathematician, but I
>>>> am not sure how such a term is generally defined and I have no idea how
>>>> you define it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would say: Someone who studies formal/informal arguments based on wfs and proofs from ZFC.
>> So Paul Erdos wasn't a mathematician by your definition? In fact you
>> have ruled out virtually all of the Field Medal winners. Would you like
>> a second try?
> 
> You are very incorrect, do you even know what ZFC is?  Stepping up to the plate to smear me should not be done at all, and it looks like you have no idea how math/ZFC work, so at least you are too unprepared for right-wing fascist operational activity to be taken too seriously.

Of course I know what ZFC is. I also know that virtually the only 
mathematicians that directly use (or publish) WFF-only proofs are the 
ones who are doing technical work in foundations or logic; even these 
folks avoid that level of detail as much as possible. Most proofs use a 
lot of verbiage and analogies to established theorems to convince the 
reader.

The various theories that most mathematicians work with usually claim 
that there work could be traced back to ZFC but the demonstrations of 
those claims are rarely made explicit and are usually based on the facts 
that their theory is based on another theory ..... that is based on ZFC. 
And in fact there are several groups who explicitly claim to /not/ be 
using ZFC, e.g., the Intuitionists.

And why the nasty reply? Don't let your self proclaimed personality 
issues get in the way of these discussions. In fact, there are many open 
threads in this forum where you have made claims and others have asked 
you to back them up. The general result is that you don't. (Which 
doesn't mean you can't but strongly suggests it.)
-- 
Jeff Barnett

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Resolved:  Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-22 10:40 -0700
  Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-22 10:42 -0700
    Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-22 10:50 -0700
  Re: Resolved:  Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-22 19:25 +0100
    Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-23 07:03 -0700
      Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-23 23:52 +0100
        Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-23 16:07 -0700
          Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-24 02:28 +0100
            Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2022-06-24 01:00 -0700
              Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Paul N <gw7rib@aol.com> - 2022-06-24 04:50 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-24 08:38 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-24 21:38 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-24 14:04 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2022-06-24 23:06 -0600
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-25 07:22 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2022-06-25 11:25 -0600
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-25 14:06 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2022-06-25 16:40 -0600
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-25 17:21 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-26 01:02 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-25 17:26 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-26 14:44 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-26 07:47 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-26 22:26 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-26 17:57 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-27 02:15 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-26 18:27 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-27 02:54 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 08:51 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-27 21:56 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-27 15:56 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-26 08:03 -0700
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-26 21:49 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-24 21:17 +0100
                Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Paul N <gw7rib@aol.com> - 2022-06-25 04:44 -0700
              Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-24 21:14 +0100
            Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem "B.H." <xlt.pjw@gmail.com> - 2022-06-24 08:35 -0700
              Re: Resolved: Even vs. Odd Latin Square Problem Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-06-24 21:30 +0100

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